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  • #91
    Originally posted by SeGoodland View Post
    Also, to highlight the difference in the way that Joshua and Wilder both took out Molina.

    Against Wilder, Molina had a real go. 9 rounds!

    Against Joshua, he spent most of the time cowering from a barrage of big shots. 3 rounds.

    Molina lost to Breazeale, Joshua beat Breazeale easily. It makes sense, to see the difference between Wilder and Joshua, for Wilder to fight Breazeale.

    I really want to see that.
    Be rest assured wilder/breazeale is next. I don't see fury going for immediate rematch.

    This is a big window to make the undisputed if wilder was ever interested.

    He seems contempted with that single green belt. I can conclude to say wilder lacks ambition to be honest.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Jax teller View Post
      Good point about the media but I assume this has gone out the window since Hearns said they was getting ghosted by Finkel. Wilder did say AJ is begging for the FIGHT no mention of lowballs and that he would't do it for 28 mil even as he wants the Fury fight, which is fair.

      To address what Whyte is saying firstly he is not AJ's promoter or friend even so he has no requirement be "nice". It also benefits Whyte saying that he himself is a dangerous fighter and going with one of the narratives out there that AJ is avoiding dangerous fights.

      Whether true or not (whole other debate) including himself in this group of fighters makes him appear more dangerous, generates more hype for a fight with AJ and produces lovely soundbytes for the media to use increasing public awareness of him. Miller has done exactly the same but he's the one being touted as the easy fight now Whyte has said it. Plus if we're taking Whyte at his word he's said similar stuff about Wilder especially in regards to him being afraid of Whyte. Logically as well do you really think AJ isn't fighting Whyte next? Wilder appears to be busy, they will not fight Miller in UK as he is AJ's US meal ticket, Khan Brook isn't happening, Wembely is booked, AJ has alway talked about the Whyte rematch (seems to be his favourite opponent) and Whyte is an inhouse fighter.
      Hearn initial plan was to make the undisputed in house by directing whyte to wilder hoping he can take off then green belt from him but the politics in WBC is so strong that it might take another 4/5yrs to achieve and whyte don't have such time.

      He had to move on. The second plan of making an all UK undisputed paradventure fury pick up the green belt failed again. All thanks to the Mexican judge.

      Am sure hearn being a master planner should have plan C and Plan D to bring all the belts to the UK.

      That's the ultimate target. So who so ever wants a crack will have to come to the UK, making American HW's irrelevant.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by thack View Post
        There is no secret to the business plan.Sweet Caroline at Wembley Stadium against the easiest opposition and tell every mainstream payer everyone else is ducking.

        Barry Hearn 'If Joshua doesn't fight Wilder for ten years but stays unbeaten then I'll take that'

        'When the fans start picking the fights the boxer end's up skint'......Barry Hearn

        It can't be any clearer.

        I was firmly in Joshua's corner but now , unfortunately I hope that one of these guys knock him off. Then we will hopefully get some of these tremendous fights after all the rematch clauses which will appear in the frightened to death Hearn contracts.

        Whyte is gaining fans with his willingness to fight them all, Joshua is losing respect by not.
        Im starting to respect Whyte for taking on big challenges to get back to that Mando spot.
        If he does fight AJ he will definitely need to score a knockout cause AJ is a protected species in the UK.
        If this fight goes ahead I hope Whyte knocks out AJs big head.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by SeGoodland View Post
          Also, to highlight the difference in the way that Joshua and Wilder both took out Molina.

          Against Wilder, Molina had a real go. 9 rounds!

          Against Joshua, he spent most of the time cowering from a barrage of big shots. 3 rounds.

          Molina lost to Breazeale, Joshua beat Breazeale easily. It makes sense, to see the difference between Wilder and Joshua, for Wilder to fight Breazeale.

          I really want to see that.
          Triangle theories don’t work. Stop using triangle theories

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
            Hearn initial plan was to make the undisputed in house by directing whyte to wilder hoping he can take off then green belt from him but the politics in WBC is so strong that it might take another 4/5yrs to achieve and whyte don't have such time.

            He had to move on. The second plan of making an all UK undisputed paradventure fury pick up the green belt failed again. All thanks to the Mexican judge.

            Am sure hearn being a master planner should have plan C and Plan D to bring all the belts to the UK.

            That's the ultimate target. So who so ever wants a crack will have to come to the UK, making American HW's irrelevant.
            I don't think any of Hearns plans involved Fury winning tbf, it looks like Warren is going to do business with. They want 50-50 and shared Sky & BT broadcasting which they didn't even get against Wilder and they have nothing extra to bargain with against AJ who is a bigger draw than Wilder and a unified champ. Can't understand how Wilder fans support this and complain about Wilder being bigger than Parker so he should get more (which I agree with) Surely AJ is bigger than Wilder so the split should favour AJ more than Wilder did against Fury?

            But yeah hopefully undisputed fight is in the UK.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
              Triangle theories don’t work. Stop using triangle theories
              That's not quite triangle theory though. This is about mutual opponents and the two mutual opponents AJ has with Wilder, AJ has finished faster and with much less experience and Wilder is supposed to be the better KO artist according to his fans.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by BLASTER1 View Post
                Im starting to respect Whyte for taking on big challenges to get back to that Mando spot.
                If he does fight AJ he will definitely need to score a knockout cause AJ is a protected species in the UK.
                If this fight goes ahead I hope Whyte knocks out AJs big head.
                we av had so many wishes like this in the past, even from fight #13 but the champ keeps disappointing them.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Jax teller View Post
                  That's not quite triangle theory though. This is about mutual opponents and the two mutual opponents AJ has with Wilder, AJ has finished faster and with much less experience and Wilder is supposed to be the better KO artist according to his fans.

                  Oh that’s totally different then.

                  Mayweather KO’d Hatton in 10, Pac did it in 2.

                  Pac sure is going to take Floyd’s head off!

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
                    Triangle theories don’t work. Stop using triangle theories
                    Considering the current climate of the non-fights, you can only go with the facts that we have.

                    If Wilder fights Breazeale, we have another piece of information to add to who (potentially) would win between Joshua and Wilder.

                    Its all we have!!!!

                    Triangle theories can work...example.
                    Klitschko beat Povetkin
                    Joshua beat Klitschko
                    Triangle theory dictates that Joshua should beat Povetkin.
                    Joshua beats Povetkin.

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                    • Originally posted by Jax teller View Post
                      I don't think any of Hearns plans involved Fury winning tbf, it looks like Warren is going to do business with. They want 50-50 and shared Sky & BT broadcasting which they didn't even get against Wilder and they have nothing extra to bargain with against AJ who is a bigger draw than Wilder and a unified champ. Can't understand how Wilder fans support this and complain about Wilder being bigger than Parker so he should get more (which I agree with) Surely AJ is bigger than Wilder so the split should favour AJ more than Wilder did against Fury?

                      But yeah hopefully undisputed fight is in the UK.
                      We will see how things lean as we approach mid year.

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