a PRIME odlh would DESTROY every single one of these top welters (you must agree)

[blue_dolphin]

Spence: oscar would light his ass up like the 4th of july

Porter: oscar times him and knocks him out

Horn: lol

Crawford: oscar would outdog him and beat him on points.

Garcia: easy destruction for oscar

Thurman: oscar by KO.


shhht i dont even know if these new crop of welters can even beat Ike Quartey, Tito or prime Shane.

oscar was too much of a DOG in his prime years.

[bluebeam]

Prime oscar struggled with a lightweight
Prime Oscar struggled with a past prime Whitaker
Prime Oscar got a gift against quartey in many people's eyes


Oscar can't be trusted in big fights. History proves this.

vargas is the only elite prime fighter, that oscar beat.

[Citizen Koba]

Nah. Oscar may have been a superstar but he was never leagues ahead of his peers... remember you only have to be a little bit better than the best guy you fought at the time you fought 'em. Sometimes I think dudes somehow mentally stack all the guys who a fighter beat one on top of one another to calculate how good they are.

[ramses07]

he'd beat spence, garcia dudes are too flat footed

he'd beat porter with the jab like roided Mosley 2

Crawford would be a toss up (Crawford can do it all really well)

y'all forget DLH really should have 2 W's against a roided Mosley and Trinidad

[Citizen Koba]

That's excellent point that I never heard anyone bringing up!

De La Hoya came up from Lightweight (His 130 "campaign" was a complete joke so not counting that)..
At first, He was carefully managed - in a sneaky way I'd say..
As super featherweight - He fought nobodies.
As lightweight - He was fighting mostly super featherweights.
As Super Lightweight - He was fighting lightweights.

...so that He always had size advantage.

Then as He got into his super fight part of career, He never dominated elite fighters...
...Canelo is now following very similar career path - close fight with elite fighters and inbetween that, a lot of tune-ups against cherry-picked B level fighters.

That's not really a knock on De La Coo Coo. Very hard to be dominant against elite fighters, which is why up and comers are usually overrated while elite guys coming off big fights can be underrated (Think of Charlo's suddenly being favorites over Canelo and Golovkin after They knocked out few lower caliber contenders).

Anyway - as I was rumbling quite a bit here - Point is, De La Hoya wasn't ever destroying fighter on the level of Spence, Thurman, Crawford - or even Garcia and Porter.

It has to be said that Whitaker was past his prime, always a bit undersized at 147 - and came off two very close fights with good, but not great Wilfredo Rivera.
Shane Mosley was still building into 147 lbs fighter...
Quartey was very good, but had his flaws...

Oscar would belong in the mix on elite level today, but it would probably go the same way as it went in his time. Some great battles, winnig some - losing some - some surprises, some disappoitments.
Great and memorable career, but just step below greatness overall.

I would probably have been more diplomatic about Oscar's earlier career, but yeah. It's a tried and tested formula and by no means a criticism of the fighters who are groomed from earlier in their careers (like Oscar or Canelo say).. who still after all have to win the fights (or at least come close enough for the judges) and are absolutely very good fighters... just not the stratospheric greats H2H their reputations suggest.

Always worth remembering that resume is at least as much about opportunity as it is about ability.

[BoxingIsGreat]

The only two I'd call top welters are Spence and Crawford. Both beat him or DLH gets a gift ala Ike Quartey.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Prime oscar struggled with a lightweight
Prime Oscar struggled with a past prime Whitaker
Prime Oscar got a gift against quartey in many people's eyes


Oscar can't be trusted in big fights. History proves this.

vargas is the only elite prime fighter, that oscar beat.

Good post. Agreed. Green K.

[johnbook]

Maybe better to say that SRL, Hearns, and the Duran that beat SRL would have defeated all current top WWs, no doubt.

[boliodogs]

Another negative thread by you attacking today's good boxers. Oscar was good. So what????? He is retired and he never was as good as you are saying. Tito beat him. Mosley beat him twice. His win over Quartey was debatable. Mayweather gave him weight and beat him. Little Pacquiao beat him into retirement when he wasn't that old. Hopkins KOed him with a body punch and Spence would do the same. There is tons of film on your hero so go watch that instead of attacking today's good welterweights and having them lose your BS fantasy fights to make Oscar better than he really was.

[boliodogs]

Spence: oscar would light his ass up like the 4th of july

Porter: oscar times him and knocks him out

Horn: lol

Crawford: oscar would outdog him and beat him on points.

Garcia: easy destruction for oscar

Thurman: oscar by KO.


shhht i dont even know if these new crop of welters can even beat Ike Quartey, Tito or prime Shane.

oscar was too much of a DOG in his prime years.

You must agree??????? I would never agree with you because all your threads are trashing today's best fighters. You are a ****** weirdo. If you don't like today's best boxers then don't watch them and GTFOH. Watch old film of Oscar who you love so much.