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  • pgonzes91
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    #11
    All I read from this whole book you wrote was “I love Lomachenko thick c o c k in my a s s!”

    Originally posted by Boxing Logic
    Hell, people are acting like Mikey is doing something amazing going to welterweight. That's only 17 pounds above the weight he was fighting at when he was 18 or 19 years old. Meanwhile, people have criticized Lomachenko for not moving up more than three divisions, but he is fighting 30 pounds above the weight he was at at 18 years old, and then add another 10 for the amateur-to-pro conversion. What that means is, Lomachenko is fighting 20+ pounds higher, relative to his natural size at the age Mikey Garcia turned pro, than Mikey Garcia is at welterweight. Not lightweight Garcia, that is not even in the conversation. Lightweight Garcia, at 31 years old, is 5 pounds above where he turned pro. That tells you what a weight bully he's been and how bull**** his whole narrative about "I've moved up and won titles in 4 different divisions" claim is. Complete bull****. Lightweight Garcia, Loma at lightweight is fighting 35 pounds above Mikey, relative to each of their natural sizes when Mikey turned pro. So anyone who thinks Mikey is P4P better than Loma, you can throw that out right now until Mikey is at middleweight, and even then it wouldn't be as many pounds but moving up is harder at higher weights, so we'll call it even then even though the number would still be 8 pounds less.

    But Mikey at welterweight? That's still not even half of what Loma has done, in terms of weight jumping. Going by their weights at 18-19 years old, Mikey went from 130 back to 126, back to 130, up to 135, up to 140, back to 135 (see how he keeps going back up and down? That is to cherry pick the easy titlists in each division. Breadman talks about this too), and now finally, in his thirties, up to 147 for the first real fight of his career, at age 31. In contrast, Loma went from 105 pounds I believe at 18 years old in the amateurs, equivalent to roughly 95 pounds in the pros, to now 135, a 40 pound jump. So hopefully the media educate themselves about this stuff for once and start putting Loma's achievements into proper context. As much credit as he has gotten from the media for his skills, he is not getting near enough credit for the amount of weight he has jumped since he was 18. People keep calling him a natural featherweight, but that was when he turned pro as a fully grown adult. Comparing apples to apples, what weight Loma was at when MIKEY turned pro, it's 105 pounds in the amateurs, aka roughly 95 in the pros if there were such a weight class. Big difference, and very significant.

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    • Steven Mccowan
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      #12
      I just know Kriegle is the worst mic man in the game. And that's hard to be in this disgustingly annoying and useless information world of boxing mic men lol

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      • Lazy Jab
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        #13
        Originally posted by Boxing Logic
        Hell, people are acting like Mikey is doing something amazing going to welterweight. That's only 17 pounds above the weight he was fighting at when he was 18 or 19 years old. Meanwhile, people have criticized Lomachenko for not moving up more than three divisions, but he is fighting 30 pounds above the weight he was at at 18 years old, and then add another 10 for the amateur-to-pro conversion. What that means is, Lomachenko is fighting 20+ pounds higher, relative to his natural size at the age Mikey Garcia turned pro, than Mikey Garcia is at welterweight. Not lightweight Garcia, that is not even in the conversation. Lightweight Garcia, at 31 years old, is 5 pounds above where he turned pro. That tells you what a weight bully he's been and how bull**** his whole narrative about "I've moved up and won titles in 4 different divisions" claim is. Complete bull****. Lightweight Garcia, Loma at lightweight is fighting 35 pounds above Mikey, relative to each of their natural sizes when Mikey turned pro. So anyone who thinks Mikey is P4P better than Loma, you can throw that out right now until Mikey is at middleweight, and even then it wouldn't be as many pounds but moving up is harder at higher weights, so we'll call it even then even though the number would still be 8 pounds less.

        But Mikey at welterweight? That's still not even half of what Loma has done, in terms of weight jumping. Going by their weights at 18-19 years old, Mikey went from 130 back to 126, back to 130, up to 135, up to 140, back to 135 (see how he keeps going back up and down? That is to cherry pick the easy titlists in each division. Breadman talks about this too), and now finally, in his thirties, up to 147 for the first real fight of his career, at age 31. In contrast, Loma went from 105 pounds I believe at 18 years old in the amateurs, equivalent to roughly 95 pounds in the pros, to now 135, a 40 pound jump. So hopefully the media educate themselves about this stuff for once and start putting Loma's achievements into proper context. As much credit as he has gotten from the media for his skills, he is not getting near enough credit for the amount of weight he has jumped since he was 18. People keep calling him a natural featherweight, but that was when he turned pro as a fully grown adult. Comparing apples to apples, what weight Loma was at when MIKEY turned pro, it's 105 pounds in the amateurs, aka roughly 95 in the pros if there were such a weight class. Big difference, and very significant.
        Well if were going by your logic..the biased kind, it can be argued Loma ducked Garcia by not going pro sooner. Loma stayed Competing with amateurs to avoid Garcia.

        With your logic you could find some way to convince yourself of that.

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