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  • _Rexy_
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    #41
    Originally posted by Loque-san
    A real LIGHT MIDDLEWEIGHT champion should defend his title at 154, not at 152 or even worse at 147. Floyd never did it, therefore Trout was the real WBA champ at that weight.
    hope you stick to that argument when Canelo was holding the MW title hostage at 155

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    • Loque-san
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      #42
      Originally posted by _Rexy_
      hope you stick to that argument when Canelo was holding the MW title hostage at 155
      Of course, Caneloweight was a joke. Golovkin was the real middleweight champ..

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      • Tony Trick-Pony
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        #43
        Originally posted by TonyGe
        Favorite current fighters or fighters all time..
        Either one. I like looking into this. I mean, it's just one measuring tool for how great a fighter can be but any guy who beats a good number of champions is usually a great sign.

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        • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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          #44
          Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
          Hell yeah. Very impressive run! I don't count Hernan because I believe he had a WBA regular belt and later lost to the Super champion, but here goes the rest:

          Nonito Donaire: 11 champions. Very impressive!

          Vic Darchinyan - IBF Flyweight Champion, IBF Super Flyweight Champion, WBA Super World Super Flyweight Champion, WBC Super Flyweight Champion
          Moruti Mthalane - IBF Flyweight Champion twice
          Volodymyr Sydorenko - WBA Bantamweight Champion (I'm guessing this was before their super titles?)
          Fernando Montiel - WBO Flyweight Champion, WBO Super Flyweight Champion, WBO Bantamweight Champion, WBC Bantamweight Champion
          Omar Andres Narvaez - WBO Flyweight Champion, WBO Super Flyweight Champion
          Wilfredo Vazquez, Jr. - WBO Super Bantamweight Champion
          Jeffrey Mathebula - IBF Super Bantamweight Champion
          Toshiaki Nishioka - WBC Super Bantamweight Champion
          Jorge Arce- WBO Light Flyweight Champion, WBC Light Flyweight Champion, WBO Super Flyweight Champion, WBO Super Batntamweight Champion, WBO Bantamweight Champion
          Simpiwe Vetyeka - WBA Super World Featherweight Champion
          Ryan Burnett- IBF Bantamweight Champion, WBA Super World Bantamweight Champion
          Marquez was legit WBA champ at 112 wasn’t he? I’m sure he was super champ when he lost the unification fight against Viloria.

          Fantastic run regardless beating a notable amount of multi weight champions. Hopefully Nonito can add a few more to the resume before it’s all said and done.

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          • TonyGe
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            #45
            Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
            Either one. I like looking into this. I mean, it's just one measuring tool for how great a fighter can be but any guy who beats a good number of champions is usually a great sign.
            Depends who is available to fight at the time he was active. If you go back in time there weren't as many divisions and less sanctioning bodies. So it's like comparing apples to oranges. SSR went on a winning streak of over 90 fights. He was
            128-1-2, 11 years into his career. It boggles the mind. Chavez had an 87 fight winning streak. Some of the men these guys fought would be a world champion in this era and some of the present champions wouldn't make it into the top 5 in the past. Tommy Hearns is one of my favorite fighters. Don't care how many champions he beat. It's irrelevant to me at least. For example saying that a guy like Mayweather would beat Tommy because he defeated more champions is IMO laughable.
            Last edited by TonyGe; 01-06-2019, 11:42 AM.

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            • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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              #46
              Originally posted by TonyGe
              Depends who is available to fight at the time he was active. If you go back in time there weren't as many divisions and less sanctioning bodies. So it's like comparing apples to oranges. SSR went on a winning streak of over 90 fights. He was
              128-1-2, 11 years into his career. It boggles the mind. Chavez had an 87 fight winning streak. Some of the men these guys fought would be a world champion in this era and some of the present champions wouldn't make it into the top 5 in the past. Tommy Hearns is one of my favorite fighters. Don't care how many champions he beat. It's irrelevant to me at least. For example saying that a guy like Mayweather would beat Tommy because he defeated more champions is IMO laughable.
              Hearns beat 13: Duran, Cuevas, Benitez, Hill, Andries, DeWitt, Espada, the Thai guy that shares the world title in 3 fights record with Loma etc.

              I agree though, you can’t really compare present day fighters resume to those of the past, because there are so many more champions these days. You could maybe compare Lineal Champion’s beaten but that’s about it.

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                #47
                Originally posted by TonyGe
                Depends who is available to fight at the time he was active. If you go back in time there weren't as many divisions and less sanctioning bodies. So it's like comparing apples to oranges. SSR went on a winning streak of over 90 fights. He was
                128-1-2, 11 years into his career. It boggles the mind. Chavez had an 87 fight winning streak. Some of the men these guys fought would be a world champion in this era and some of the present champions wouldn't make it into the top 5 in the past. Tommy Hearns is one of my favorite fighters. Don't care how many champions he beat. It's irrelevant to me at least. For example saying that a guy like Mayweather would beat Tommy because he defeated more champions is IMO laughable.
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                Hearns beat 13: Duran, Cuevas, Benitez, Hill, Andries, DeWitt, Espada, the Thai guy that shares the world title in 3 fights record with Loma etc.

                I agree though, you can’t really compare present day fighters resume to those of the past, because there are so many more champions these days. You could maybe compare Lineal Champion’s beaten but that’s about it.
                Yeah, Duran beat 11 I think and Hearns beat 13 and yes, of course, they would have many more these days. Hell when they first came up, the IBF wasn't even recognized, much less the WBO. I just look at it as a measuring tool. If a guy has beaten ten or more champions in any era, that's very impressive. If you have a fighter who actually did get to a title opportunity and won, then that fighter does something most guys don't, even with all the belts they have nowadays. So beating one of them is special imo. There can be exceptions but overall, a guy who holds wins over ten or more champions is usually great or close to it.

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                  #48
                  Rocky Marciano

                  Four Undisputed, an IBU, and a British. That's six and only two of them are letter belts.

                  Given one undisputed is worth four letters that's a total of 18 in the modern era without mentioning bull**** that is not equivalent to a major body belt today.

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                  • Tony Trick-Pony
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Marchegiano
                    Rocky Marciano

                    Four Undisputed, an IBU, and a British. That's six and only two of them are letter belts.

                    Given one undisputed is worth four letters that's a total of 18 in the modern era without mentioning bull**** that is not equivalent to a major body belt today.
                    Wow, man. That's a very good breakdown!

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                    • Lion81
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by sugarsmosley_


                      Crawford is just now entering his prime. he could retire now and be probably be around oscar level ATG range
                      Seriously get the *** out of here with this garbage man.

                      That weak list gets hated on every week here on Boxing scene. Now its at Oscars level, the man known for fighting everyone. Lol

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