Comments Thread For: Frank Warren: Fury is Now a Bigger Attraction Than Joshua

[aAgger]

I payed 10 bucks to watch AJ ppv and live ticket prices are dirt cheap.. Wilder cost me 75 bucks.. and nose bleed seats are still 40 dollars more than AJ nose bleeds.. so, like I said before.. until AJ fights in America he is unproven to the rest of the world as a Cash Cow.

In the UK, his PPV fights cost £25 ($35). So 1.5m UK PPVs are equivalent to 750k US PPVs. Which is huge for a country with 1/5 the US population.

AJ doesn't need America. He's a big star making lots of cash in his home country.

[aAgger]

He did that like one time

Twice, against Klitchko and Parker. And he has continued selling 80k+ seats and 1m+ PPVs for every fight since. He's easily the biggest star in UK boxing.

[EasternEuroFan]

You can't really say Fury is a bigger attraction when you look at the tickets AJ shifts.

But in terms of current popularity and the guy everyone is talking about in UK boxing, casuals and sports fans in general, it's been Fury for the last few months. If he can keep up the momentum then we might see a genuine shift.

That's the thing when you have a casual fanbase like AJ, the novelty wears off and they follow the trend and Fury has been the man of the moment.

AJ is still a huge attraction but his ticket sales have been getting slower. I'll bet his next Wembley date doesn't sell out, like the last one didn't and i'll bet the sales will be slower too. He's still a huge draw, but i think his popularity has taken a slight downturn and the casuals are not quite as interested anymore.

[EasternEuroFan]

In the UK, his PPV fights cost £25 ($35). So 1.5m UK PPVs are equivalent to 750k US PPVs. Which is huge for a country with 1/5 the US population.

AJ doesn't need America. He's a big star making lots of cash in his home country.

He could make a lot more with ticket sales in USA though, if he could be a real star there. Those Vegas fights are no joke..

GGG v Canelo did over double AJ's biggest gate receipt, with 4x less capacity.

Also, i believe AJ has only ever done 1.5m PPV's once (apparently:see below). He generally gets around 800k (apparently), still a very good number, but basically half of what you are claiming as a general number.

Sky don't release their figures but there's a good chance they might be exaggerated. BARB.co.uk that collect data on viewers generally show that the amount of buys for these fights are not as high as made out to be. Sky don't release official figures, so can suggest what they want.

Hearn uses BARB and has linked it before to show the amount of buys, but actually BARB estimates viewers, not buys. So Hearn's numbers are not true. If he says 1m bought it, that is inaccurate. The estimated viewers means more than 1 person watching per buy.

If Hearn is really using BARB's estimated viewers as buys, which he does, then you could probably cut the viewers number in half and get a more accurate number in terms of buys.

[Fanofreason]

No, he isn't. At least not in the UK, where AJ does 1.5m PPVs and 90k seats.

Check the sales $$$ Fury wilder made more money than $5 Joshua ever has.

You morons don't realize both Fury and Wilder are now A side vs AJ.

[aAgger]

He could make a lot more with ticket sales in USA though, if he could be a real star there. Those Vegas fights are no joke..

GGG v Canelo did over double AJ's biggest gate receipt, with 4x less capacity.

Also, i believe AJ has only ever done 1.5m PPV's once (apparently:see below). He generally gets around 800k (apparently), still a very good number, but basically half of what you are claiming as a general number.

Sky don't release their figures but there's a good chance they might be exaggerated. BARB.co.uk that collect data on viewers generally show that the amount of buys for these fights are not as high as made out to be. Sky don't release official figures, so can suggest what they want.

Hearn uses BARB and has linked it before to show the amount of buys, but actually BARB estimates viewers, not buys. So Hearn's numbers are not true. If he says 1m bought it, that is inaccurate. The estimated viewers means more than 1 person watching per buy.

If Hearn is really using BARB's estimated viewers as buys, which he does, then you could probably cut the viewers number in half and get a more accurate number in terms of buys.

I've seen the BARB figures for myself. Joshua's last four fights all sold more than 1m PPV buys in the UK. This is confirmed by BARB. Joshua is the biggest star in UK boxing, by far. Fury doesn't come anywhere close.

[aAgger]

Check the sales $$$ Fury wilder made more money than $5 Joshua ever has.

You morons don't realize both Fury and Wilder are now A side vs AJ.

Wilder-Fury didn't come anywhere close to Joshua. Like I said, his 1.5m UK PPVs are equivalent to 700k+ US PPVs. Wilder-Fury only did 325k PPVs.

[EasternEuroFan]

I've seen the BARB figures for myself. Joshua's last four fights all sold more than 1m PPV buys in the UK. This is confirmed by BARB. Joshua is the biggest star in UK boxing, by far. Fury doesn't come anywhere close.

BARB don't show buys.

They buy estimated viewing figures based on their 2.5 viewers per broadcast ratio.

So you can half AJ's PPV sales.

[davefromvancouv]

I watched that 50 million interview for the 2nd time yesterday. It was a horrible interview as an AJ fan. However we can’t live in the past. It’s 2019 let’s make the fight AJ vs Deontay ‘ baby oil ‘ Wilder

Unfortunately, past is prologue: Hearn is still playing games, trying to convince the public that they are really really really trying to make the Wilder fight, but Wilder is too easy. Whyte is the tougher fight, so Whyte is the better opponent for April 13th. Coincidentally, Whyte is also the WBO mandatory. Then of course, there would need to be a Pulev IBF mandatory fight later in the year (unless all hell breaks loose and Whyte beats Joshua).

So like most boxing fans predicted last year, no chance of a Joshua-Wilder fight until 2020. But not a big deal: it looks like the highly anticipated Wilder-Fury rematch is still a go for early summer, maybe even in the UK. Shame that Joshua can't be part of the mix, but, you know....

[Jkp]

Warren is not saying anything odd or bizzare as a promoter, that's his job to promote his client but you need to bring the guy at the top down to reposition your client as the top guy.

That, he find it difficult to do. You can't bring down the #1 guy by mere talks.
Fury will have to face the unified champ in the ring and I have no doubt, if wilder's 1/2 straight shots can put fury down, AJ's 1/2/3/4 combos will definitely bring him down and no way he's getting up.

He will win rounds for sure but ones hez down, there is no getting up.

AJ has never knocked anyone out cleanly, like wilder does. They're all tko's stopped by the ref. Or his opponent just gives up because Eddie paid him so much money.