Does Anyone Know The Boxing Budget for Sky Sports or BT Sports?

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  • KTFOKING
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    Does Anyone Know The Boxing Budget for Sky Sports or BT Sports?

    I've tried to google this but nothing popped up and I've never seen Hearn or Warren in any interview mention the budget of these two networks. Does anyone know or have a baseline idea of what the boxing budgets are for these two networks? Because it is clear any decent/good match up gets put on PPV in the UK. It baffles me how at this point in their careers, how Eubank Jr/Degale is PPV.

    Then my next question is, do you need to subscribe to Sky Sports or BT Sports to buy their PPVs? If not, then no point of even subscribing to those two networks if you do so just for boxing, right? I know the EPL comes with Sky Sports and that is the main reason for folks to subscribe to it. And I'm also aware Eubank Jr/Degale is on ITV.
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    They have more of a budget than HBO that's for sure.

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      Originally posted by Kaspa9t9
      They have more of a budget than HBO that's for sure.
      I mean it is true now since HBO left boxing, but I'm not sure if that was the case in 2018. If Sky Sports/BT Sports had a decent budget, would we really get Whyte/Parker, Whyte/Chisora, Frampton/Warrington etc on PPV? I know the PPVs are $20 bucks, but I'm legitimately wondering what kind of boxing budgets those two networks have if they have to put any decent match up on PPV.

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      • EasternEuroFan
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        They definitely don't disclose such information, so there's no real chance of finding it out.

        But i'd imagine it's not a crazy amounts. Most of their budget goes on securing Football (Soccer) rights, which is incredible money. Sky also have a dedicated F1 channel, Golf, Cricket etc.. channels just for them. They probably put more money into them than Boxing. Probably more money into Rugby too as well as Football from other countries.

        It's a business at the end of the day, they're not going to lose money on these big events, so they cover their backs with doing these fights PPV.

        Sky and BT are huge corporations. Them along with ****** basically monopolise TV, Internet etc. in the UK, they could certainly pay the likes of Chisora and Whyte enough money to fight on normal Sky Sports and not miss the money but no business is doing lose money if they don't need to, no matter how big or small. That's how they got that big in the first place.
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          With BT, ITV, Sky Sports and even YouTube, in the UK there is a lot of money to be made on PPV for the fighters.

          With that in mind, if they are not in a long term contract with a promoter they are of course going to see where else they can get a payday.

          In the case of Eubank and DeGale, obviously ITV and Haymon offered both fighters bigger money than the other networks who wouldn't put it on PPV.

          Also, bare in mind that this PPV is likely to be around $15. So it sounds worse than it is. In the case of ITV we will be getting Broner/Pac/Plant/Uzcatagui for free so we can't complain too much.

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            #6
            Originally posted by KTFOKING
            I mean it is true now since HBO left boxing, but I'm not sure if that was the case in 2018. If Sky Sports/BT Sports had a decent budget, would we really get Whyte/Parker, Whyte/Chisora, Frampton/Warrington etc on PPV? I know the PPVs are $20 bucks, but I'm legitimately wondering what kind of boxing budgets those two networks have if they have to put any decent match up on PPV.
            I take your point but you know what promoters are like if they have a decent fight on their hands. Boxing fans get a raw deal by the TV networks and we always will. Greed wins.

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              Nothing official but probably fair to say sky sports is significantly more than BT

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                Originally posted by EasternEuroFan
                They definitely don't disclose such information, so there's no real chance of finding it out.

                But i'd imagine it's not a crazy amounts. Most of their budget goes on securing Football (Soccer) rights, which is incredible money. Sky also have a dedicated F1 channel, Golf, Cricket etc.. channels just for them. They probably put more money into them than Boxing. Probably more money into Rugby too as well as Football from other countries.

                It's a business at the end of the day, they're not going to lose money on these big events, so they cover their backs with doing these fights PPV.

                Sky and BT are huge corporations. Them along with ****** basically monopolise TV, Internet etc. in the UK, they could certainly pay the likes of Chisora and Whyte enough money to fight on normal Sky Sports and not miss the money but no business is doing lose money if they don't need to, no matter how big or small. That's how they got that big in the first place.
                I saw some clip of Hearn saying how can I tell Whyte to take 400k to fight on regular Sky when he can make much more on PPV. Okay fair, but why would Sky only be able to give him 400k? I may be wrong with the number I am mentioning, but thought it was around that range. Like would Sky not be able to offer a $3 million license fee for that card where Whyte/Chisora paid 7 figures? Having a $3 million license fee isn't all that much anyways. But if Whyte would only get like 400k, then that tells me Sky would only put up what, a total of $1.5 million for that card?

                Really amazing how hard it is to get information on the UK boxing scene. All the purses to the commission are disclosed stateside (Not always accurate) so you have something to go off of at least. And then you get the budget numbers for the networks and what not. For the UK though? You get NOTHING. Not even any rumors of PPV sales. Like what did Wilder/Ortiz do on PPV in the UK? Within 10 days you knew it did around 325k in the states, but crickets in terms of the UK numbers.

                Over/under if you had to guess the boxing budget for Sky being $30 million for the 16 yearly cards they put on regular Sky?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Kezzer
                  Nothing official but probably fair to say sky sports is significantly more than BT
                  Give your best educated guess for both networks.

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                  • KTFOKING
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                    Originally posted by EnglishOxide
                    With BT, ITV, Sky Sports and even YouTube, in the UK there is a lot of money to be made on PPV for the fighters.

                    With that in mind, if they are not in a long term contract with a promoter they are of course going to see where else they can get a payday.

                    In the case of Eubank and DeGale, obviously ITV and Haymon offered both fighters bigger money than the other networks who wouldn't put it on PPV.

                    Also, bare in mind that this PPV is likely to be around $15. So it sounds worse than it is. In the case of ITV we will be getting Broner/Pac/Plant/Uzcatagui for free so we can't complain too much.
                    But still, $15 bucks for THAT fight? Not like this is peak James Degale either.

                    I mean sure you guys get those fights on ITV, but those are international fights. You should be getting them for free or on non-PPV.

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