Why do weight classes only have an impact before 200 lbs?

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  • boliodogs
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    #11
    The higher up in weight you go the less difference 10 pounds makes. Down at flyweight all the best fighters are very good and 10 pounds is almost 10% of their body weight. At 160 10 pounds is still a lot of weight to give up but not as much as 10 pounds for a fly weight because 10 pounds is a little over 6% of their body weight. At 200 10 pounds is 5% of their body weight and fighters start to vary more than at the lower weights with some smaller guys being faster and better than larger guys. When boxers get well over 200 pounds the extra weight isn't always an advantage because the giant guys are rarely as fast and often don't hit harder or even as hard as some good smaller heavyweights. Fury was about 50 pounds heavier than Wilder and he outboxed Wilder but Wilder hit harder than Fury and was faster and probably had a better chin. Even 50 pounds was really no advantage for Fury.

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      #12
      Originally posted by HitmanTommy
      So are you saying that Tyson (who came in around 218lbs) would have trouble in todays HW division?
      Did you read my post of one or two guys do not make a division?

      Of course not this is B.Scene why would you?

      The answer is Tyson or AJ would be at the top . No one in this era actually has a chance against Mike Tyson but Joshua bc he has close quarter fighting ability coupled with size and counter punching himself and without that you won't win along with power .

      There's a Frazier like fighter named George Arias that's the shortest guy who will have a chance but most likely not but it's about weight and he's around 225.
      Last edited by juggernaut666; 01-01-2019, 09:10 PM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by sentax
        Is 200 lbs really a magic number though?

        Is a 185 lbs guy fighting a 200 lbs fighter at more of a disadvantage than a 200 lbs guy against someone weighing 235 lbs?
        Originally posted by larryxxx..
        I dont have the answer that...that...great question
        Strangely enough, I think there starts to be a point of diminishing returns where the bigger you get, the more disadvantaged you are.

        AJ looks slow to me when he's over 250lbs.

        A guy like Valuev or Primo Carnera would actually be better off as smaller guys.

        To me, the ideal weight for a fighter where strength, speed, endurance, and agility come together to me is about 220 lbs.

        Prime Ali, Tyson, Sonny Liston, George Foreman were all around there.

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        • DreamFighter
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          #14
          proportions, and the negative attributes from being just too big.

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            #15
            Originally posted by juggernaut666
            Not always but most times getting hit by 225 plus fighters which is what below average HW' s are now is more noticeable then someone under 200...it's why knockout percentages go down when known puncher jump up in weight .!
            no, its just harder to box against someone with advantages across the board, not JUST because they have extra weight. Height, reach are larger on average with larger fighters, so its harder to knock them out and easier for them to hit you.

            if it was just weight then in your theory the LHW who flubbed up to 250lbs can fight on equal footing.

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