AJ wanting Luis Ortiz if the Wilder fight can't be made. Is this true?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • jas
    Voice of Reason
    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
    • Jul 2005
    • 22547
    • 937
    • 914
    • 1,059,614

    #21
    I can see aj vs ortiz at barclays

    Khan may want the wembley april 13th date and hearn may give him it to make the brook fight, meaning aj would then be more likely to fight in america instead vs miller or ortiz.

    Whyte could fight breazeale at the o2 with chisora vs price as the co-main. That is an easy ko win for whyte imo.

    Comment

    • Froch_uppercut
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Jan 2015
      • 1573
      • 120
      • 12
      • 40,630

      #22
      Originally posted by DuckAdonis
      If AJ knocks him out they won't give him credit anyway...

      It'll just be some excuses like Wilder ruined him or AJ beat leftovers. If I was AJ I'd lure Fury into the Ring, since he beat Wilder and Wilder doesn't want the fight.
      That's a fight that would be great for the fans, but from Fury's perspective the Wilder rematch makes money and is easier as he's already beaten Wilder once. Sadly, Warren and TV deals make this (AJ V Fury) hard to put together. I'd love to see it happen though.

      Assuming Wilder Fury 2 happens, I'd like to see AJ fight Miller.
      I think the WBC will mandate a Whyte fight in 2019, whether that is Fury or Wilder. Then when Whyte has the other belt we can see Joshua Whyte 2 for all the marbles.

      The Mayweather effect is in play with Wilder, he simply is risk averse and afraid to lose his 0. He did not expect that from Fury lol, so it's a rock and a hard place now for DW, but he may be allowed to get away with taking on Breazeale. Who knows, but sooner or later that belt gonna be on the line in a unification.

      Comment

      • Ray*
        Be safe!!!
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Jul 2005
        • 44867
        • 1,654
        • 1,608
        • 558,890

        #23
        If his next fight is in America then Miller or Ortiz, but he should fight Whyte fight in April . Whyte deserves his shot at a title. Then if he beats Whyte he can take his show on the road and fight Miller or Ortiz in America, only after either of those two beat a good name or if they both fight each other.

        Comment

        • Marchegiano
          Banned
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • Aug 2010
          • 12208
          • 1,790
          • 2,307
          • 165,288

          #24
          Ortiz is fine and I know this won't be popular but I'd rather see Pulev.

          Pulev

          Ortiz

          Whyte

          Miller

          Breazeale


          Dom has done nothing but sat on ass and waited on Wilder. Negron's an ok start back but honestly the other fellas are just too active for a Negron fight to be enough.

          Miller hasn't done much but clean up leftovers. Jarrell just took his first 0. For point of reference Dom, who I just gave **** for sitting on ass, got four before he even sat on ass. Miller seems fabricated to me, but his leftovers are good leftovers so I am interested, but honestly I reckon Joshua licks him real proper.

          Whyte has been active. Whyte has been fighting good names, 2018 has been a great year for him. The only problem with Dillian is we've seen him get KO'd already and while he does appear improved Joshua seems that ten fold. Beating Parker was a huge boon for Whyte but Joshua displayed a body jab and ring awareness in the Pov fight I just don't think Whyte can handle. I just don't believe he's done enough improving to do anything more than he did last time. Probably less actually.

          Ortiz is still riding off the Wilder fight obviously. Either you believe he did enough in that fight to earn strong consideration for a Joshua fight or you don't. To me Ortiz showed me something Whyte hasn't. I do believe Ortiz could win. I wouldn't favor him, but, I do think he's more dangerous than Whyte for Joshua. The distances he can fight at, the postures he takes, Ortiz is a pretty mean package. Also, European and American fighters are super protected. How do you get so many unbeaten boxers in a region? They don't fight one another is how. When they do they're auto ranked in the world top ranks. That said, I am more impressed with Ortiz's regional wins then most and less impressed with US/European regional wins than most. He didn't just beat a regional fighter to get a world ranking. That is all Wilder, Fury, and Joshua did to get world ranking. I like USBA, NABF, EBU, CBC, etc, but everyone should have an equal playing field. FECARBOX is not NABF.

          Pulev beat Samuel Peter! Alright but seriously how long is this fella going to wait and be shelved for? I realize he swarved Joshua of his own free will but damn, let's get that fight done and dusted. Kubrat was one of the few who showed some balls and didn't give Wlad any respect. It got him smacked around proper and Wlad probably showed the best left hook of his career, but Kubrat pulled it out of Wlad. I've been interested how others like Fury, Wilder, and Joshua would handle him since the Wlad fight. Does Pulev have the stones to stick his tongue out at Josh too? That'd make me love him even if he does get KO'd pretty bad. Cheeky ****er isn't he? It's a shame he and Pov never fought.

          Comment

          • SHAW ARUM DUVA
            Banned
            Interim Champion - 1-100 posts
            • Dec 2018
            • 80
            • 5
            • 0
            • 3,600

            #25
            Originally posted by Ray*
            If his next fight is in America then Miller or Ortiz, but he should fight Whyte fight in April . Whyte deserves his shot at a title. Then if he beats Whyte he can take his show on the road and fight Miller or Ortiz in America, only after either of those two beat a good name or if they both fight each other.
            Yes I agree. Especially because Fury and Wilder could become a trilogy. Joshua can't just wait around. Whyte, Miller and Pulev will keep him busy. No reason to skip over Whyte to jump to Miller. Miller will be available later. Whyte is the fight that makes the most sense next.

            Comment

            • boliodogs
              Undisputed Champion
              Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
              • May 2008
              • 33358
              • 824
              • 1,782
              • 309,589

              #26
              Either Whyte or Ortiz would be worthy challengers. I think Whyte should be first in line because he has been beating top guys and has only lost to AJ a long time ago. I think he is ranked higher than Ortiz in most rankings. Ortiz is a top 5 heavyweight so he is a good fight for AJ also.

              Comment

              • otrocubiche
                Undisputed Champion
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Feb 2014
                • 1679
                • 30
                • 4
                • 19,939

                #27
                Won't happen. I think AJ beatss him easily in the late rounds, but there's more risk than reward on this, he's just naming names, he'll fight Whyte.

                Comment

                • SamLangfordFan
                  Up and Comer
                  Interim Champion - 1-100 posts
                  • Sep 2018
                  • 66
                  • 5
                  • 10
                  • 8,592

                  #28
                  No chance AJ fights Ortiz...not happening on Eddie’s watch. AJ will probably be fighting Whyte, Miller, and Usyk in his next 3 fights.

                  Comment

                  • boliodogs
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • May 2008
                    • 33358
                    • 824
                    • 1,782
                    • 309,589

                    #29
                    Boxing scene top headlines says Hearn says Whyte is the front runner. I am sure it will be AJ vs Whyte and not Ortiz. That's ok by me. I think Whyte deserves a title shot more than Ortiz and is a better fighter than Ortiz.

                    Comment

                    • Mammoth
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 35717
                      • 3,849
                      • 3,389
                      • 378,304

                      #30
                      Not happening. It's Whyte next and you all should know better.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP