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  • TheCell8
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    #11
    Originally posted by satiev1
    LOL. What kasakh or russian is at the top right now. GGG is half ethnic russian and kovalev is done. Ukranie right now has 3 champs. Lomachenko, gvozdyk and usyk. Usyk unified and gozdyk holds the wbc. Loma and usyk are both in the top ten p4p list.
    Historically speaking.

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    • satiev1
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      #12
      Originally posted by _Rexy_
      I'm sure he's referring to all time. Russia and Kazakhstan both have loads of talent rising up the ranks, while Ukraine hasn't had as many great fighters in the recent years coming up the ranks.

      in the 2016 Olympics, Kazakhstan had 10 fighters and 4 medals. Russia had 9 fighters and 3 medals. Ukraine had 5 fighters, and 4 never made it out of the round of 32.
      No he was referring to the pros. Right now ukraine is dominating. Not even close.

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      • Boxing Logic
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        #13
        Where can you listen to the interview?

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        • Pac=Duran
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          #14
          Originally posted by satiev1
          LOL. What kasakh or russian is at the top right now. GGG is half ethnic russian and kovalev is done. Ukranie right now has 3 champs. Lomachenko, gvozdyk and usyk. Usyk unified and gozdyk holds the wbc. Loma and usyk are both in the top ten p4p list.
          Usyk and Loma are both in the top 2 P4P list mane lol

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          • CuriousGuest
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            #15
            Originally posted by TheCell8
            The thing to keep in mind here is that this is the golden generation of Ukrainian boxing. Their 2012 Olympic class is one of the best of all time.

            However, the 2016 class was not very strong, and neither was the 2008 class. You'll notice there aren't many fighters from those other teams that have really made it, in fact I don't think there are any.

            So while this current class is very strong, there's no guarantee that future classes will be as well.

            Ukraine has been hit or miss in terms of pro boxing. They're not as dominant as Russians or Kazakhs.
            LMAO, give me the examples of russian and kazakhs dominance. You don't have any, do ya?
            It's a golden ukrainian generation, no doubt about it. But still they not the first champs either in amateurs or in pros, and I can asure you Ukraine is ahead of Russia and Kazakhstan in both ams and pros

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            • satiev1
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              #16
              Originally posted by CuriousGuest
              LMAO, give me the examples of russian and kazakhs dominance. You don't have any, do ya?
              It's a golden ukrainian generation, no doubt about it. But still they not the first champs either in amateurs or in pros, and I can asure you Ukraine is ahead of Russia and Kazakhstan in both ams and pros
              3 ukranians as champs in the division with two holding the WBC and two in the top 5 p4p. It's not even close. There are more ukranians coming out in the pro scene. There's never been a dominant ethnically khazah champ. GGG was half russian half korean.

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              • sicko
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                #17
                Yeah I follow Amateurs so you could see the rise years ago when they started to beat the Cubans.

                Loma, Usyk, Gvozdyk, Khytrov, Shelestyuk, Postol, Shabranskyy just to name a few I remember a lot of those guys in AIBA and WSB so props to them

                The Kazakhstan fighters are next...
                Daniyar Yeleussinov
                Ivan Dychko
                Batyrzhan Jukembayev
                Ali Akhmedov
                Just to name a few...

                Nobody HATE Eastern Europeans it is just unfortunate that those guys get used for ignorant people little Anti American Fighters Agenda but a lot of these guys are NOTHING like some of the Idiots who Support Them for their own reasons

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                • Slowhand
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by chrisJS
                  I agree. This forum needs a re-vamp and to ban at least 100 posters and have noobie policies. I'd be happy to help filter out the trash.
                  True. Luckily there´s a solution, my ignore list is pretty close to a hundred. Makes the threads just about readable.

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                  • Gurgutt
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by TheCell8
                    The thing to keep in mind here is that this is the golden generation of Ukrainian boxing. Their 2012 Olympic class is one of the best of all time.
                    Ukraine has been hit or miss in terms of pro boxing. They're not as dominant as Russians or Kazakhs.
                    Not dominant at all!

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                    • StargazerV
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                      #20
                      I'm Ukrainian and I must admit that our 4 champs have nothing to do with the particular country. Loma, Usyk and Gvozdyk are just guys that were trained by Anatoly Lomachenko. And Dalakian is just a sole champ (each country can have one champ). So far nothing that makes Ukraine special, sadly for me. It's just Papachenko, currently nominated for Ring's 2018 Trainer of the Year. And it's sad that the doesn't train amateur Olympic team anymore - he could've easily grow more guys like Usyk and Gvozdyk. But Loma is special - he was born P4P #1.

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