Tyson Fury is better than Anthony Joshua. Agree or disagree?

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  • TonyGe
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    #21
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
    I disagree.

    Tyson Fury is being overrated.

    What is he going to do if he cannot out boxed a opponent? What is he going to do when he is in there with somebody who can hit him consistently at elite level? Deontay Wilder get's out boxed all the time, in most of his recent fights he drops multiple rounds to his opponents 'So people need to understand that Tyson Fury is not the first boxer to out box Deontay Wilder'....'This is a fact'.

    In my opinion Wladimir Kiltschko would of beaten him in the rematch, and why on earth is Tyson Fury not taking the Deontay Wilder rematch? At elite level Tyson Fury for whatever reason seems not to take immediate rematches. Yes Tyson Fury's story is inspiring, but if people want to refer to him as an all-time great he needs as a fighter to achieve and produce certain actions such as?

    1: Tyson Fury needs to take immediate rematches with elite level fighters! If you think you won the fight, and you believe that you can produce that kind of performance again? Then take the rematch, what is the problem? 'Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, the most recent past great champions have done this, and if it is not a immediate rematch? The great champions of the past have taken rematches to prove a point or redeem themselves, at some point in their careers.

    2: Tyson Fury needs to win a championship belt and defend that belt, because boxing fans? That is what champions do! Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Muhammad Ali, Wladimir Kiltschko, Even Rid**** Bowe 'All of the most recent great champions have displayed these actions.

    For me Tyson Fury is just not hurting these top level guys! Deontay Wilder is not known for having immense physiological durability. But at 218/212 pounds he was marching forward all night! And lets get one thing clear, Tyson Fury did not beat up or demoralize Wladimir Kiltschko! 'Tyson Fury won the fight, but in my opinion even right now? Wladimir Kiltschcko probably believes that he could come back to beat Tyson Fury, if he would take the rematch'.

    Tyson Fury's story is inspiring, and I do like his character. But I believe that Anthony Joshua, will not only beat Tyson Fury! He will knock him out! Tyson Fury if he was to rematch Deontay Wilder would win! Because I am under no illusion, I understand that Tyson Fury's comeback is still going through a process. Fury is still regaining his former form, and may actually tighten up and improve in certain area's.

    But I wonder? Everyone is talking about Deontay Wilder being exposed. But there also may be a possibility that Tyson Fury has also been exposed, at elite level against big strong heavyweights, that are not intimidated by his size. Tyson Fury for me, seems like a one trick pony. At elite level I have only seen him fight one way! 'But time will tell, and his comeback is this going through a process, and yes he is the number 2 heavyweight in the world! I do believe he can and will beat Deontay Wilder if the rematch takes place!'...
    I have to agree somewhat with what you posted. I had Wilder in a draw or possible win. I think too many people got caught up in Fury's backstory. Backstroies don't score points, neither does mugging for the camera, fist pumping at the conclusion of a round, sticking out your tongue and putting your hands behind your back when your safely out of range.

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    • DaaamnSon
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      #22
      Originally posted by champion4ever
      No you're Bullshit! You refuse to accept the facts and the truth. The fact is ever since Joshua became unified champion he has been feasting off of old, shot, washed up and small contenders who can't hit; Klitschko, Takam, Parker and Povetkin.


      And Wilder's fought murderers' row since becoming champion has he? GTFOH

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      • SeGoodland
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        #23
        Originally posted by champion4ever
        No you're Bullshit! You refuse to accept the facts and the truth. The fact is ever since Joshua became unified champion he has been feasting off of old, shot, washed up and small contenders who can't hit; Klitschko, Takam, Parker and Povetkin.
        I think that you need to remember that Wilder's only other really good level fighter, other than Fury, was Ortiz so saying that Joshua is 'feasting' on these fighters is the same thing as Wilder's cherry picking. Its tit for tat.

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        • *Makaveli*
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          #24
          We wont know until they fight . I think Furys mindgames will get into AJ's head more than they did with Wilder and he grinds him down in the ring .

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            #25
            Originally posted by mayweatherspace
            Tyson Fury explains why he is the greatest HW of this era, ahead of Wilder and Joshua

            I think Fury is right. He is much better than Joshua, and 100% better than Deontay wilder based on the last performance

            He's shown he has good D but he is not as well rounded as Joshua and does not have as many weapons. Also, Wilder is extremely overrated. We do have Fury's win over Klitschko to corroborate his level of performance over Wilder though, so there's that.
            If it wasn't for horrible judging he'd be a WBC champion right now. Joshua V Fury is a great fight, hopefully Warren can stop being a bitter ****head and work with Hearn to give it to the fans.

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            • Laligalaliga
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              #26
              How did you come into this conclusion when they have face each other?

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              • REDEEMER
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                #27
                Originally posted by champion4ever
                No you're Bullshit! You refuse to accept the facts and the truth. The fact is ever since Joshua became unified champion he has been feasting off of old, shot, washed up and small contenders who can't hit; Klitschko, Takam, Parker and Povetkin.
                Wilder has only fought one top prime guy and that was Fury in 8 title defenses and he unofficially lost.

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                • Laligalaliga
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
                  Absolutely, for one he actually got in the ring and challenged Wilder and even did a face off with him not just once but twice!

                  AJ bîtçhed and moaned to Skysports about Wilder doing a face off with him and even made a pûśśy aśś excuse of why he couldn’t be at the Wilder vs Fury fight!

                  I mean, could you imagine Muhammad Ali telling people he won’t be at the Frazier vs Foreman fight cuz it’s way past his bedtime!?

                  How can you even you look at yourself in the mirror and still believe your a champion after saying that?

                  Imagine Lennox Lewis saying he can’t make it to the Bowe vs Holyfield fighter because it’s way past his bedtime!? Lmao

                  That’s right cuz you can’t imagine it! AJ is not cut from those guys cloths, Fury is!

                  Whether you have a problem with him not defending his title or having no rematches the fact is that Fury arguably beat Wilder and actually fought him while he came back from semi retirement!

                  AJ been active more than Fury but yet throws every excuses in the book of why he didn’t fight Wilder!

                  Fury takes AJ to school btw,
                  All you do is cry more than the bereaved. Fury is KO no AJ or wilder. He outboxed wilder just like most of wilders past opponents so fury did nothing special but to get up from a KD.

                  AJ do no one punch KO, he does powerful combinations I doubt fury will get up.

                  Any top fighter fighting Fury knows for sure fury can't KO him.
                  That's a 20% advantage

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                  • Laligalaliga
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    Fury is no1 and Josh unless he has an agenda shouldnt mind that. As it means he can fight Fury, beat him easy and then be considered no1.
                    Why today is it instant gratification? Would t josh get more satisfaction beating fury to be mo1.? I mean josh picked the belts out of bin or beat Martin to be champ. Is that bad enough?
                    Fury was the man, and you are only as good as your last fight which was fury beating Wlad. So why would josh be no1 beating Fury leftovers?
                    Yes, Fury is no1. JOsh needs to fight Fury and then josh can be no1. If the urgency for josh to be no1 is so great, he better gets his skates on and fight Fury as soon as possible.
                    Fury beat wlad and run away from the rematch.
                    I can won't be wrong if I assume he was luck that night.
                    Hez had no title defence ever, how can we know how great he is?

                    Wilder was supposed to walk over him but wilder himself is shyyte.

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                    • Boxldn
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                      #30
                      Fury > Noncua.

                      Don’t get the logic of A.Jokes fight being more entertaining being a reason he’s better ?

                      Fury made Klitschko look silly
                      A.Joke got knocked down and it wasn’t like it was really THE fight of last year. Only a true Ediie Hearn football fan would claim that!

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