How much is Wilder worth without importing UK fighters?

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  • Lopez_Boxing
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    #101
    Originally posted by Jubei
    I cant believe there are actually people out there (its just americans, but still) that think, or got manipulated into thinking that Wilder is a top tier fighter and not the carefully guided hypejob that just got exposed by an out of shape Fury who came from a 3 year lay off. Wilder is a goddamn Joke and would be totally irrelevant, had they not robbed Fury and built Wilders profle on the shoulders of UK Heavyweights.
    Do you guys make this shlt up as you go? No one claims wilder is anything other than a heavy puncher. In fact people think he's an OVER ACHIEVER. NO ONE thinks Wilder is a top tier fighter and with that being said no one should think aj is either.

    You can almost say the exact same thing you said just switch it to Aj and the English.
    AJ doesn't look amazing until he gets the knock out, or quick ref stoppage, just like wilder. Ajs best win came from a 40 year old fighter that didn't fight for years looked like shlt Against fury and still managed to put aj on his ass.
    At least fury had 2 fights before wilder, and don't take anything away from fury, he looked great and didn't show any rust.
    The heavy weight division is full of fringe contenders in another era. Hell whyte is getting a shot at aj for knocking out DC, and dc has been getting knocked out for years. Why are we acting like that's an accomplishment?
    Is aj more fundamental sound than wilder? Sure he is. No question. But that's not saying much. And yes there are many Americans that are saying that wilder can beat aj, but guess what? There are many English boxers and Insiders that are saying wilder can beat aj too. Or at least that aj is scared of wilder.
    With that being said props to all these warriors for their success and I thank them for their entertainment. No matter where they are from. Nothing will get decided until they face each other.

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    • Szef
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      #102
      Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
      I didn't say arrogance MAKES you a man. But yes most alphas are arrogant. That's why women love us. Most women don't like the nice guy, they like the jerk, the ass hole, the guy that doesn't care. And we are all those things because we are arrogant. Now we don't know we are being arrogant and we don't try to be arrogant. Not even brought to our attention until someone tells us. We just are what we are. And arrogance isn't always in your face. There's a subtle arrogance as well. So I disagree with that.

      As far as wilder. Fury is the tougher fight so I don't see how he's ducking aj to fight fury. Or would rather fight fury than AJ. Especially after the first fight.

      With that being said, if 28 mil is the offer I'm not sure why he wouldn't take it. I would. But I'm not the wbc champ and I don't know the behind the scene numbers. Maybe 28 mill still leaves a lot of money on the table for wilder and he is not ok with that. The princable of things goes a long way with arrogant man.
      Bro.

      Anybody who says he's an alpha automatically gets DQed. I know you're semi joking but still, it's a cringe worthy thing to say.

      You don't decide if you're an alpha. Other people do. And they don't know why. They're just naturally drawn to you.

      It's got nothing to do with your wealth or social status. Wealth, social status and arrogance are the final product.
      Last edited by Szef; 12-27-2018, 10:03 PM.

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      • Lopez_Boxing
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        #103
        Originally posted by Szef
        Bro.

        Anybody who says he's an alpha automatically gets DQed. I know you're semi joking but still, it's a cringe worthy thing to say.

        You don't decide if you're an alpha. Other people do. And they don't know why. They're just naturally drawn to you.

        It's got nothing to do with your wealth or social status. Wealth, social status and arrogance are the final product.
        I don't say it. Dude said it so I was just speaking his langue. But even then I dont think he gets it. But you're correct

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          #104
          Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
          Never said anything about being a rock star, but to a stereo typing, under developed, and clearing insecure guy that you're projecting yourself to be I probably would be.

          But since you don't seem to have amounted to much the pics in my profile should more than do it. As you can see I wear Versace, Burberry, sit in ring side seats that cost more than your car. I'm not even adding plane tickets and Hotel. And my wife isn't half bad either. As far as my muscles, up until this point it's only been women that ask, so you'll have to google other men to get your rocks off. Cheers
          "That cost more than your car.."
          Ha ha, if only you knew.

          Guys like you who post this stuff, it must be a real treat to live a little bit.
          Glad you get your days out once in a while, you work so hard for it.

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          • Raggamuffin
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            #105
            Originally posted by genrick
            For one thing he was guaranteed a mere $4 mil in the Fury fight.
            Stats show the bottom line normally won't triple that amount,
            so let's say he got a total of $8 mil.

            Just trying to figure where all this arrogance from the guy is coming from.
            You can't be a complete dumbass lmao. But you are in the red lmao so it's possible...

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            • Raggamuffin
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              #106
              Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
              Do you guys make this shlt up as you go? No one claims wilder is anything other than a heavy puncher. In fact people think he's an OVER ACHIEVER. NO ONE thinks Wilder is a top tier fighter and with that being said no one should think aj is either.

              You can almost say the exact same thing you said just switch it to Aj and the English.
              AJ doesn't look amazing until he gets the knock out, or quick ref stoppage, just like wilder. Ajs best win came from a 40 year old fighter that didn't fight for years looked like shlt Against fury and still managed to put aj on his ass.
              At least fury had 2 fights before wilder, and don't take anything away from fury, he looked great and didn't show any rust.
              The heavy weight division is full of fringe contenders in another era. Hell whyte is getting a shot at aj for knocking out DC, and dc has been getting knocked out for years. Why are we acting like that's an accomplishment?
              Is aj more fundamental sound than wilder? Sure he is. No question. But that's not saying much. And yes there are many Americans that are saying that wilder can beat aj, but guess what? There are many English boxers and Insiders that are saying wilder can beat aj too. Or at least that aj is scared of wilder.
              With that being said props to all these warriors for their success and I thank them for their entertainment. No matter where they are from. Nothing will get decided until they face each other.
              Good post...

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              • SHAW ARUM DUVA
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                #107
                Originally posted by Jubei
                I cant believe there are actually people out there (its just americans, but still) that think, or got manipulated into thinking that Wilder is a top tier fighter
                You don't think you're being a bit harsh? How many fighters in your opinion get to be in the "top tier?" 3? 5? Because it'd be hard to justify excluding Wilder from a list of top 3 or top 5 heavyweights in the world.

                If you think it's just Americans being manipulated, how do you explain Wilder being rated so high by ratings panel comprised of people all over the world? Or Wilder being rated so high by computerized ratings?

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