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  • yammy25
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    #11
    Originally posted by BLASTER1
    What don't you understand by Wilder has a re-match with the fighter that actually would fight him.
    At what point has that ever been acknowledged as being either

    A. Immediate
    B. Mandated by a governing body

    Fury's own trainer has said he should fight AJ next so the rematch clause obviously isn't immediate and a must have in whatever contract was drawn up.

    WBC have given their blessing for a sanction on the rematch.. it isn't mandated, it can and would absolutely be trumped by a undisputed unification.

    The other guys right... You lot are actually blind to information right in front of you.

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      #12
      Originally posted by yammy25
      At what point has that ever been acknowledged as being either

      A. Immediate
      B. Mandated by a governing body

      Fury's own trainer has said he should fight AJ next so the rematch clause obviously isn't immediate and a must have in whatever contract was drawn up.

      WBC have given their blessing for a sanction on the rematch.. it isn't mandated, it can and would absolutely be trumped by a undisputed unification.

      The other guys right... You lot are actually blind to information right in front of you.
      I use common sense and logic when the process hasn't been made into facts.
      Wilder owes Fury the re-match, Wilder/Fury was the best Heavyweight fight this year, both will earn alot more than what they both earnt in the first fight.
      Why would they include AJ into this main attraction.
      It just doesn't make sense.
      Now that AJ knows that Wilder won't fight him he's suddenly coming up with these fair deals...
      They don't call Hearn the snake for nothing.
      Or at least I don't.

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      • yammy25
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        #13
        Originally posted by BLASTER1
        I use common sense and logic when the process hasn't been made into facts.
        Wilder owes Fury the re-match, Wilder/Fury was the best Heavyweight fight this year, both will earn alot more than what they both earnt in the first fight.
        Why would they include AJ into this main attraction.
        It just doesn't make sense.
        Now that AJ knows that Wilder won't fight him he's suddenly coming up with these fair deals...
        They don't call Hearn the snake for nothing.
        Or at least I don't.
        He gave a fair deal before.... and you can't dispute it wasn't fair because it was more than what wilder actually just got in his fury fight.

        Hearn offered him 15 million..he said no ..whether it was date or venue or whatever the reason , but he got offered 15. You cant say that that offer... Given Wilders last take home off his first PPV , wasn't fair.

        Now he gets 28.. plus incentive upside.. plus a rematch in the states win lose or draw whereby he's a side if he wins #1.

        That's considerably..infinitely more than he stands to ever make off any fight ever again including a fury rematch. You know.. I know it.. the world knows it.

        As for wilder oweing the rematch. Fury's own trainer just said nah.. you fight Joshua and the winner can fight Tyson fury. Tyson fury doesn't necessarily NEED the rematch next. If wilder fought AJ... Tyson either gets his rematch for undisputed after against wilder...or he gets mega bucks against AJ.

        You don't call Hearn a snake because of his business tactics.. he's one of , if not the best promoter in the world currently. You call him a snake because of tribalism...

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          #14
          It's hard to tell how good Wilder and Fury are because Fury is not the same as we saw against Klitschko, whereas AJ has proven himself against Klitschko and has kept improving since.

          If Fury is anywhere near as good NOW as he was against Klitschko then I can see Fury outboxing AJ to victory and I can see Wilder landing .

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          • BLASTER1
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            #15
            Originally posted by yammy25
            He gave a fair deal before.... and you can't dispute it wasn't fair because it was more than what wilder actually just got in his fury fight.

            Hearn offered him 15 million..he said no ..whether it was date or venue or whatever the reason , but he got offered 15. You cant say that that offer... Given Wilders last take home off his first PPV , wasn't fair.

            Now he gets 28.. plus incentive upside.. plus a rematch in the states win lose or draw whereby he's a side if he wins #1.

            That's considerably..infinitely more than he stands to ever make off any fight ever again including a fury rematch. You know.. I know it.. the world knows it.

            As for wilder oweing the rematch. Fury's own trainer just said nah.. you fight Joshua and the winner can fight Tyson fury. Tyson fury doesn't necessarily NEED the rematch next. If wilder fought AJ... Tyson either gets his rematch for undisputed after against wilder...or he gets mega bucks against AJ.

            You don't call Hearn a snake because of his business tactics.. he's one of , if not the best promoter in the world currently. You call him a snake because of tribalism...
            You don't take in the satisfaction of denying AJ because of his BS before the Fury fight.
            Hearn ***ed Wilder around when he knew he was going to fight Povetkin next.
            A dose of his own medicine is good for both AJ and Hearn bring them back down to earth.
            They pretty much thought they ruled the division before Fury stepped up.
            So *** them both.
            They can be left out in the cold.

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              #16
              Originally posted by BLASTER1
              You don't take in the satisfaction of denying AJ because of his BS before the Fury fight.
              Hearn ***ed Wilder around when he knew he was going to fight Povetkin next.
              A dose of his own medicine is good for both AJ and Hearn bring them back down to earth.
              They pretty much thought they ruled the division before Fury stepped up.
              So *** them both.
              They can be left out in the cold.
              Aaahh and there we go. That was easier than I thought.

              It is all about tribalism.

              You don't want to see the HW division unified. You don't even want to see your man wilder get rewarded financially higher than he's ever been before..

              You want him to take less.. fight an opponent more damaging to his career and earning ability and freeze out Hearn and AJ because in your opinion.. that's what they did to your guy. ( Which is subjective)

              Some boxing fan you are..

              I'll stick to my side of the fence and wait for a unification in anticipation.. not take satisfaction out of it not happening because someone isnt the colour or nationality or type of personality I like.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Century Tuna
                What’s funny is aj said fury ain’t got a belt but he’s the top dog as it stands, far better then Whyte or miller and it’s the fight we all want to see, when fury beats wilder it’ll **** hearn and aj as fury won’t take a **** split like they’ll do with Whyte or miller.
                Aj turned down 50million to fight wilder only wants him so bad as fury showed wilder can be beaten
                More complex than that.

                AJ isn’t scared.

                Wilder and Fury can crack 600k buys in the rematch.

                The current % splits means that AJ would have to give a bigger chunk to compete against Wilder - Fury II revenue split to wilder.

                AJ doesn’t want to give a bigger % to Wilder.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by yammy25
                  He gave a fair deal before.... and you can't dispute it wasn't fair because it was more than what wilder actually just got in his fury fight.

                  Hearn offered him 15 million..he said no ..whether it was date or venue or whatever the reason , but he got offered 15. You cant say that that offer... Given Wilders last take home off his first PPV , wasn't fair.

                  Now he gets 28.. plus incentive upside.. plus a rematch in the states win lose or draw whereby he's a side if he wins #1.

                  That's considerably..infinitely more than he stands to ever make off any fight ever again including a fury rematch. You know.. I know it.. the world knows it.

                  As for wilder oweing the rematch. Fury's own trainer just said nah.. you fight Joshua and the winner can fight Tyson fury. Tyson fury doesn't necessarily NEED the rematch next. If wilder fought AJ... Tyson either gets his rematch for undisputed after against wilder...or he gets mega bucks against AJ.

                  You don't call Hearn a snake because of his business tactics.. he's one of , if not the best promoter in the world currently. You call him a snake because of tribalism...
                  Agreed, it’s the money and % split that is causing the issues, not that AJ is scared.

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                  • alexguiness
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                    #19
                    AJ doesn't call the shots Hearn does.

                    Hearn can milk the Nigerian cash cow for another 12 months before actually giving him a competitive fight with Wilder or Fury.

                    The fact that Joshua's next opponent is Dillian Shyte (again) tells a story.

                    Dare to be great etc...

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by alexguiness
                      AJ doesn't call the shots Hearn does.

                      Hearn can milk the Nigerian cash cow for another 12 months before actually giving him a competitive fight with Wilder or Fury.

                      The fact that Joshua's next opponent is Dillian Shyte (again) tells a story.

                      Dare to be great etc...
                      tell me, who should fight Joshua next? remember, Fury and Wilder have a rematch.

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