Comments Thread For: Hearn: If Wilder Wants Undisputed, If That Matters, He'll Fight AJ

[Curt Henning]

They really do. I guess they want him to lose or lose financially.

the idea that wilder is some bad position is so absurd its actually sad to me that these guys would actually even say it

[lightsoutrome]

Hearn still pretending to want the Wilder fight next to justify Joshua fighting Whyte again and his idiot fans eating it up and believing it. Nothing else to see here.

[vitali1999]

He doesn't want all the titles cause then he'd have to fight mandatories. WBC lets him get away with that. If he ever was undisputed it wouldn't be for very long before he would start being stripped after all the unranked bums he fights.

[The plunger man]

Haymon and Finkel will continue to talk to Hearn until a deal is signed with Warren.

Fury has no leverage to ask for 60/40. He doesn't even really have the leverage to ask for 50/50. There's nobody else in the world Fury can fight to be on US PPV and US PPV is where the money is. Fury has no belt. Wilder and Fury need each other, but Fury needs the fight more. Wilder's worst case scenario is Joshua in the UK. Fury's worst case scenario is much worse.

From everything I'm hearing, Wilder & Fury's sides have a basic understanding for the rematch, it'll either be in Vegas or Barclays (most likely Vegas), and they'll get the deal wrapped up in January. Holidays are coming up and nobody wants to slave over negotiations over Christmas.

Only reason the first fight wasn't in Vegas is because Vegas refused neutral officials. That's the only reason LA got the fight. Now Fury realizes he's better off making the most money possible regardless of officials.

Now, if Fury beats Wilder, then the third fight would be in the UK.

325k ppvs were the numbers wilder and fury did.
$70 x 325k buys equals $22.750.000 then divide that in half which is $11.375.000 ...stop trying to spin that this fight was some kind of mega event...wilder has now in most of the eyes of the world been clearly outboxed by fury and his negotiating power has significantly been reduced now.
Wilder needs fury a lot more than fury needs him because wilder looked so bad and he lost.
Do the maths gumbo

[Stinger1]

Only in the land of make believe does Hearn bid on a fight between two PBC fighters. All this if stuff like Fury team knows what Hearn is doing and Hearn knows what Warren is doing.

Also, Wilder fought Ortiz when everyone thought he was risking a big AJ fight, that risk stuff doesn't bother him.

Anyone can bid on a fight that goes to purse bid. Arum could bid on that fight as well if he wanted to. Breazeale doesn't have to accept a deal from Wilder just because he's with Haymon. If for example Hearn tells Breazeale he'll bid $15m for that fight then Wilder has to offer him more than $4.5m to give him better deal. Could Wilder's team come up with that sort of money? I doubt it.

[Ake-Dawg]

Anyone can bid on a fight that goes to purse bid. Arum could bid on that fight as well if he wanted to. Breazeale doesn't have to accept a deal from Wilder just because he's with Haymon. If for example Hearn tells Breazeale he'll bid $15m for that fight then Wilder has to offer him more than $4.5m to give him better deal. Could Wilder's team come up with that sort of money? I doubt it.

So Hearn is going to put $11M in Wilder pocket? Then Wilder doesn't even have to promote the fight to help Hearn recoup his money. Again, Haymon managed fighters aren't obligated to any one network.

Give me something that makes sense.

[Noelanthony]

I didn't hear that part. I did hear the part where he said that they know what number he wants (he didn't repeat 50-50) and that when they were serious about negotiating and fighting then they should approach Shelly Finkel.

Oh what number is that? Maybe he can spare the time to inform his fans on that specific number instead of stating that Joshua is scared and he is eager to face Whyte. You are quick to jump to his defence that he didn’t say this or that yet you didn’t ask yourself why his stance has changed from the beginning of the interview to the end

[N/A]

He does have the leverage though because Finkel and Wilder ruled out fighting AJ.

They're just saying that because talks have gone very well with Warren and they're confident a deal will be done after the new year.

That leaves Fury or Breazeale and Hearn has said he will bid on the fight when it goes to purse bid so Fury is Wilder's only viable option where he doesn't have to deal with Hearn.

That's nonsense Hearn propaganda. Haymon controls both sides. It's not going to purse bids. Breazeale will do as Haymon says. He's only mandatory because of Haymon's brilliance, he's not going to turn on him now.

Bottom line is Wilder is between a rock and a hard place.

No, he's really not. Joshua is desperate to fight him and so is Fury. Talks with Fury are going well. That fight is 99% going to happen.

[N/A]

325k ppvs were the numbers wilder and fury did.
$70 x 325k buys equals $22.750.000 then divide that in half which is $11.375.000 ...stop trying to spin that this fight was some kind of mega event

#1 - Haymon gets a much better than 50/50 split with the PPV providers.

#2 - The next fight is expected to do twice as many PPVs.

#3 - You're forgetting to add in UK PPV, live gate, international TV, sponsorships, etc.

[Ake-Dawg]

Oh what number is that? Maybe he can spare the time to inform his fans on that specific number instead of stating that Joshua is scared and he is eager to face Whyte. You are quick to jump to his defence that he didn’t say this or that yet you didn’t ask yourself why his stance has changed from the beginning of the interview to the end

I choose to apply common sense instead of nitpicking words. That's all. I could be wrong, but when I add it all up, that's the conclusion I come to.

You're getting like those emotional types talking about "defence". Just stating my assessment.