Deontay wilder: The undisputed lie!!!

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  • that g
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    #41
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    No such thing as a flat fee with upside. Looks like Joshua meant guarantee with upside.
    thanks for the clarification. wilder fans stay twisting and spinning like windmills...

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    • Szef
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      #42
      Originally posted by Illmatic94
      If Wilder would've blown Fury out as was expected this AJ fight would be signed and sealed now. but they decided to have a classic fight that crossed over into mainstream appeal. now the rematch is a hot ticket.
      Yes. Fury and Wilder sat in a bar after the weigh in and 'decided' they'll have a classic fight.

      #WilderFanLogic

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      • Illmatic94
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        #43
        Originally posted by Szef
        Yes. Fury and Wilder sat in a bar after the weigh in and 'decided' they'll have a classic fight.

        #WilderFanLogic
        that's actually a page out of the Golovkin fans playbook. anytime he got punched or looked bad it was on purpose to lure Canelo. so Wilder and Fury shook hands and agreed to have a competitive fight to make more $$ in a rematch. mission accomplished now AJ is irrelevant.

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        • Szef
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          #44
          Originally posted by Illmatic94


          that's actually a page out of the Golovkin fans playbook. anytime he got punched or looked bad it was on purpose to lure Canelo. so Wilder and Fury shook hands and agreed to have a competitive fight to make more $$ in a rematch. mission accomplished now AJ is irrelevant.
          I can literally hear my brain cells dying as I'm reading your post.

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          • Batfink
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            #45
            This is not very interesting and difficult to follow. The truth is negotiations take time and both parties require time to explore potential avenues. Joshua May have Wembley booked but I think that’s largely irrelevant, the fact is simply this - Aj vs Wilder can raise some astronomical figures globally as it can be aggressively marketed beyond anything the division has seen in a long time particularly because one guy is US and one is UK both huge markets and collectively generate a massive amount. This fight exists itself and as such requires a different metric to allocation what each side gets paid it cannot be compared to historical figures not accurately anyhow so it’s acceptable to set it at 50/50 in my honest opinion and if both fighters want to be undisputed I cannot see why 50/50 would be an issue. So why is it an issue because it’s not about the undisputed crown it’s about getting the largest slice of the pie as possible and that’s all this whole AJ circus is about they are not in any way comfortable in given away financial ground so please refrain from telling me this is for the undisputed championship it’s not. I thinking if anyone is shirking from the challenge it has to be AJ side and the proof is there in its most purest form. The match room camp are heavily focused on the financial side they have a strategy and understand much better than the other boxers/promotors the money side of the game they recognise the value of holding belts and they equally recognise the potential loss of revenue without those belts. Anything that hits their revenue steam must be avoided. If wilders camp were half as good they would have fought the 2 bit nobodies Aj fought to win his titles a long time before Aj but they didn’t and matchroom really capitalised and shored up their position.

            The bottom line is if anyone is ducking it will be the Aj camp because they know the impact of a loss on their revenue stream. The only reason they are keen now is because fury destroyed wilder and now Aj seems to think wilder is a light touch and fancies his chances pre December 1 he wouldn’t have touched him with Klitschkos fist.

            Wilder all he wants is a fair share give him 50/50 he will fight so it’s not really about wilder it’s about Aj if he truly wants to be #1 give the guy his dues and knock him out. But to be the best in this era right now Tyson Fury is the man to beat the guy with no titles is actually better than both paper champions. Joshua has Tyson’s old belts to really claim them as his he needs to beat Fury. Wilder needs to beat fury to legitimise his own championship. It’s a beautiful setup and I hope they all fight each other multiple times.

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            • Froch_uppercut
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              #46
              Originally posted by bigjavi973
              all I had to listen to was the 1st 2 mins.....

              "what is bigger than wembley?"



              uhhh


              las vegas where the biggest fights have happened in boxing


              also no one signs a fight where theres no date venue specified

              no one signs a fight where you can potentially get more than just a flat fee

              and please dont try to justify that flat fee aj isnt mayweather or even pacquiao's league
              Define 'biggest'?

              Biggest crowd?
              Highest ticket prices?

              Wembley is a massive massive occasion and if Wilder thinks it's not he can carry on fighting nobodies in half full town halls in fuc king Alabama. He's been exposed now, and his excuses are becoming pathetic. He's a pathetic coward. I hope Fury boxes his ears off if he does duck Joshua, again.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                It's impossible to up ticket prices? You're a moron. Joshua sells 80k against nobodies, they could easily up the ticket prices for a big fight. GTFOH you clown.
                I'm glad that you stated the obvious...that Joshua has been fighting nobodies.

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                • club fighter
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  A good listen.
                  I *SO* enjoy seeing Robbie getting his azz spanked on his own threads. He's such a glutton for punishment, but he brings it on himself.

                  Must have some masochistic tendencies.

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                  • just the facts
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    They're offering 28 mil. Wilder isn't making anywhere close to that anywhere else. So why the **** should he care where it is? Wilder is flat out ducking.
                    I don't want to interrupt you guys personal argument but when did Wilder receive a 28 million offer?

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by lparm
                      Wembley is too small for wilder he wants the Birmingham metroplex and gasmart that’s where the real money is.
                      No Vegas is where the real money is. It's just that simple......

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