Muhammad Ali is the 2nd greatest boxer in history

[mayweatherspace]

Why Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest boxer in history

Few impressive facts about SRR
-Robinson was 85–0 as an amateur with 69 of those victories coming by way of knockout,
-From 1943 to 1951 Robinson went on a 91 fight unbeaten streak, the third longest in professional boxing history
-He then became the first boxer in history to win a divisional world championship five times (a feat he accomplished by defeating Carmen Basilio in 1958 to regain the middleweight championship).

Muhammad Ali is a close 2nd

[boliodogs]

Why Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest boxer in history

Few impressive facts about SRR
-Robinson was 85–0 as an amateur with 69 of those victories coming by way of knockout,
-From 1943 to 1951 Robinson went on a 91 fight unbeaten streak, the third longest in professional boxing history
-He then became the first boxer in history to win a divisional world championship five times (a feat he accomplished by defeating Carmen Basilio in 1958 to regain the middleweight championship).

Muhammad Ali is a close 2nd

Who is the greatest boxer and the 2nd greatest boxer is a matter of opinion not provable fact. Robinson and Ali are popular choices but someone might two other great and famous boxers were better and you can't prove them wrong. So you should put an Ithink or an in my opinion Robinson and Ali were the 1st and 2nd greatest boxers in history rather than stating it as if it was a proven fact because it isn't.Neither Robinson or Ali were unbeatable. They both lost lots of fights. Robinson lost 19 times. Robinson winning the middleweight title 5 different times doesn't really prove he was the best because he lost that title often. How is that better than winning the title one time and never losing it the way Joe Louis won the heavyweight title and never lost it for all those years and 25 title defenses. Robinson was defeated by Basilio who was a welterweight and Robinson was easily defeated by Ralph Jones. Ali had a very hard time with Norton who was easily beaten by others. I am not saying your choices are wrong. I am saying it's just your opinion and others might disagree and chose two other great fighters instead and have plenty of good reasons for their choices and they are just as right or wrong as you are. It's opinion not provable fact.

[Vegemil]

I remember when the 30-0 Sugar Ray Robinson beat the debut fighter **** Banner and knocked him out. That was when I realized he was the greatest.

[SinderellaMan]

Robinson has the more impressive resume yes, but Ali is the greatest because he didn't fight during his prime years and came back to a shark filled division.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Why Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest boxer in history

Few impressive facts about SRR
-Robinson was 85–0 as an amateur with 69 of those victories coming by way of knockout,
-From 1943 to 1951 Robinson went on a 91 fight unbeaten streak, the third longest in professional boxing history
-He then became the first boxer in history to win a divisional world championship five times (a feat he accomplished by defeating Carmen Basilio in 1958 to regain the middleweight championship).

Muhammad Ali is a close 2nd

1. SRR
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Gene Tunney
5. SRL
6. RJJ
7. Willie Pep
8. Floyd Mayweather Jr
9. Roberto Duran
10. Carlos Monzon

Purely my personal opinion...

[mayweatherspace]

1. SRR
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Gene Tunney
5. SRL
6. RJJ
7. Willie Pep
8. Floyd Mayweather Jr
9. Roberto Duran
10. Carlos Monzon

Purely my personal opinion...

great list

[chrisJS]

1. SRR
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Gene Tunney
5. SRL
6. RJJ
7. Willie Pep
8. Floyd Mayweather Jr
9. Roberto Duran
10. Carlos Monzon

Purely my personal opinion...

Why no Greb or Langford? Greb’s resume takes a fat dump on Monzons. I understand if you are sort of going for the angle that there’s less (in Grebs case none) footage of the early 20th century guys and their styles seem far less developed but my personal criteria when I think ALL-TIME is to also measure relative to their eras. So I guess it comes down to preference in grading system there.

Greb is officially 1-2 w/ 2 newspaper decisions (1-1) vs. Tunney in Tunneys prime at Tunneys weight. The general consensus is that Greb was blatantly robbed in fight II & III with the secondly looking su****iously fixed given Tunneys good connections. Greb probably got the better of four of the fights according to the reports and accounts of the time.

MY personal all-time top 10 would look like :-

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Harry Greb
3. Sam Langford
4. Henry Armstrong
5. Ezzard Charles
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Willie Pep
9. Eder Jofre
10. Joe Gans

I think 1-3 are fairly interchangeable, Armstrong is my clear bridge between 3 and 5 with 5-10 being interchangeable.

My honorable mentions (rough order) next 15 would be - Mickey Walker, Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis, Gene Tunney, Bob Fitzsimmons, Barney Ross, Archie Moore, Sugar Ray Leonard, Tony Canzoneri, Packey Macfarland, Jimmy McLarnin, Carlos Ortiz, Carlos Monzon, Sandy Saddler, Jimmy Wilde. Probably forgetting a few there.

[chrisJS]

Why Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest boxer in history

Few impressive facts about SRR
-Robinson was 85–0 as an amateur with 69 of those victories coming by way of knockout,
-From 1943 to 1951 Robinson went on a 91 fight unbeaten streak, the third longest in professional boxing history
-He then became the first boxer in history to win a divisional world championship five times (a feat he accomplished by defeating Carmen Basilio in 1958 to regain the middleweight championship).

Muhammad Ali is a close 2nd

Robinson lost twice as an amateur in golden gloves under his birth name of Walker Smith. He was not undefeated as an amateur.

[Fabes88]

I remember when the 30-0 Sugar Ray Robinson beat the debut fighter **** Banner and knocked him out. That was when I realized he was the greatest.

You remember? **** how old are you

[NChristo]

Billy Graham beat him in the amateurs.