Comments Thread For: Hearn: Very Disappointing if Joshua-Wilder Pushed Back To 2020

[Batfink]

Follow the money

Aj and his team are a real piece of work. They are all about the money and the numbers which is great but does hurt boxing.

Fury vs Wilder did amazingly well in US considering they pay 75-100 PPV unlike UK 20.

Aj should have been ringside at the fury vs wilder fight 100% and called them both out. That was a big night for heavyweight boxing and Aj had a responsibility to be part of that equation instead he hid away because he has crafted a public persona that doesn’t do well when you are put on the spot. He was a bit scared of the enormity of the occasion particularly one where he was not in control hence why people think he is a bit of phoney.

Aj and his team instead of focusing on the forcing a fight with wilder should be focussed on crafting a fair deal it doesn’t take 2 years to create a fight it can be done very quick if you make the right offer. Wilder shouldn’t ever accept a low ball offer which is what is on the table from matchroom who are goading him into a fight I mean this is absolutely unreasonable and downright insulting give wilder his dues.

So why are Aj and his team so eager now as opposed to their position earlier in the year? There are 2 main reasons here they are both interlinked

1 They have seen Tyson vs Wilder and quite fancy their chances now as wilder looks very poor and they probably feel quite rightly they can take this guy out.

2. They stand to loose huge amounts on PPV revenue if they choose to fight some B class opponent and God forbid they compare numbers with Fury vs Wilder 2 which would considerably weaken their financial negotiating position for a fight after that event.

This is why they are so keen on wilder now because it’s all to do with revenue nothing to do with the belt. If they fight Wilder and win they will play with Tyson Fury same as they have done with Wilder over the past year say that lineal means nothing and laugh at Tyson while they hold the undisputed status. That’s if Aj wins and that’s no foregone conclusion.

Wilder is no angel he has had 40 fights without many to **** on about and he could have equally challenged the other guys that held the belts that Tyson Fury was stripped of but didn’t and I feel that is bad management from his team because he would have destroyed those guys that Joshua beat to get his titles.

So where does it leave us well I think the person in the best position is Tyson Fury the other two have a lot to think about

Wilder needs to get himself better prepared for both fury and Joshua and cannot rely on his knockout power alone which is phenomenal by the way.

Joshua well his stock is falling unless he takes one of these boys on so if he really wants to fight these guys then give them the money they deserve 50/50. Personally I don’t think Joshua is ready for either he would loose hands down to Fury but with Wilder it depends on who catches who first.

Tyson is the people’s champion and arguably the lineal Champion - he will fight either at anytime any place anywhere and that’s why he deserves the props people. He’s not playing games he the most skilful heavyweight boxer in a very long time.

[Noelanthony]

Aj and his team are a real piece of work. They are all about the money and the numbers which is great but does hurt boxing.

Fury vs Wilder did amazingly well in US considering they pay 75-100 PPV unlike UK 20.

Aj should have been ringside at the fury vs wilder fight 100% and called them both out. That was a big night for heavyweight boxing and Aj had a responsibility to be part of that equation instead he hid away because he has crafted a public persona that doesn’t do well when you are put on the spot. He was a bit scared of the enormity of the occasion particularly one where he was not in control hence why people think he is a bit of phoney.

Aj and his team instead of focusing on the forcing a fight with wilder should be focussed on crafting a fair deal it doesn’t take 2 years to create a fight it can be done very quick if you make the right offer. Wilder shouldn’t ever accept a low ball offer which is what is on the table from matchroom who are goading him into a fight I mean this is absolutely unreasonable and downright insulting give wilder his dues.

So why are Aj and his team so eager now as opposed to their position earlier in the year? There are 2 main reasons here they are both interlinked

1 They have seen Tyson vs Wilder and quite fancy their chances now as wilder looks very poor and they probably feel quite rightly they can take this guy out.

2. They stand to loose huge amounts on PPV revenue if they choose to fight some B class opponent and God forbid they compare numbers with Fury vs Wilder 2 which would considerably weaken their financial negotiating position for a fight after that event.

This is why they are so keen on wilder now because it’s all to do with revenue nothing to do with the belt. If they fight Wilder and win they will play with Tyson Fury same as they have done with Wilder over the past year say that lineal means nothing and laugh at Tyson while they hold the undisputed status. That’s if Aj wins and that’s no foregone conclusion.

Wilder is no angel he has had 40 fights without many to **** on about and he could have equally challenged the other guys that held the belts that Tyson Fury was stripped of but didn’t and I feel that is bad management from his team because he would have destroyed those guys that Joshua beat to get his titles.

So where does it leave us well I think the person in the best position is Tyson Fury the other two have a lot to think about

Wilder needs to get himself better prepared for both fury and Joshua and cannot rely on his knockout power alone which is phenomenal by the way.

Joshua well his stock is falling unless he takes one of these boys on so if he really wants to fight these guys then give them the money they deserve 50/50. Personally I don’t think Joshua is ready for either he would loose hands down to Fury but with Wilder it depends on who catches who first.

Tyson is the people’s champion and arguably the lineal Champion - he will fight either at anytime any place anywhere and that’s why he deserves the props people. He’s not playing games he the most skilful heavyweight boxer in a very long time.

I cant argue with your assertion of Fury apart From of Course holding no titles so obviously how can he be in a better position than both Joshua and Wilder. Who remembers people’s champion? Was Mayweather a people’s champion? As a AJ fan that wants to see him square of with Wilder I say give Wilder 70 % and let’s get this fight on. Fact is he doesn’t deserve 50% and any fan that understands the business of boxing knows this. Frankly I’m tired of debating on what I think both fighters are worth.

Are you aware there is a contract on Wilder’s desk? I don’t believe it is as low a you think but who. Knows to be fair

[Batfink]

I donargue with your assertion of Fury apart. From of Course holding no titles so bviouly how can he in a better position than both Joshua and Wilder. Who remembers people’s champion? Was Mayweather a people’s champion? As a AJ fan that wants to see him square of with Wilder I say give Wilder 70 % and let’s get this fight on. Fact is he doesn’t deserve 50% and any fan that understands the business of boxing knows this. Frankly I’m tired of debating on what I think both fighters are worth.

Are you aware there is a contract on Wilder’s desk? I don’t believe it is as low a you think but who. Knows to be fair

Tyson Fury is in the best position because he was unified and lineal Champion in fact you could argue he is still lineal albeit not Ring which for once in its history is separated from lineal status it could be argued.

Fury is not burdened by the ambitions of taking ownership of these belts he has had them so he doesn’t have that motivation he just wants to prove he is the best and that’s why he came back so for him negotiations are easy and made even easier because he firmly believes neither Wilder or Joshua can beat him I would tend to agree. Further more if he does beat either he will become 2x Heavyweight Champion even better than what either Wilder or Joshua can achieve without having the inherent desire to take on risky fights.

The other two are in a difficult position because they are jostling for titles and money. So Aj has 4 of 5 so believes highly likely he wants 80/20 that may have changed now that they desperately need this fight to remain relevant. Regardless of what matchroom say that’s a fact if Fury vs Wilder 2 happens they will be a bit in the slipstream and it will hurt them in revenue and reputation hence why the offensive marketing and publicity a bit distasteful if you ask me they could conduct themselves with a bit more class especially if they want to present themselves as role model not to mention they look desperate now.

They want nothing to do with Fury that’s clear because they know their man will struggle against such a skilled opponent surely if Wilder couldn’t land or Klitschko does Aj have the speed to touch this guy. To be honest I’m not sure but he has the conditioning and the power to last 12 rounds. It’s a huge risk a huge huge risk, they better off hoping he disappears like last time.

Wilder obviously is in a difficult position because he has called out Aj and wants to be undisputed so there is an option there if he feels they pay him right. Now it’s important to understand that he deserves some big numbers regardless of historical revenue because this fight in itself will generates so much more than a mandatory for Aj. So what does he do? He knows he struggled with Fury and needs to improve there maybe he comes unstuck again in second outing is it worth the risk? Does he take on Fury now showcase his revenue and then come to negotiate with matchroom a bigger slice or does he cash his chips in now and fight Joshua on matchroom driven terms and risk it.

The landscape is complex I think Aj desperately try to stay relevant now as matchroom strategy is facing some pressing questions people are starting to doubt and well that’s normal in boxing. If they are who they say they are then hold the titles high and take on all comers.

Wilder next fight is highly likely Fury if not he will have to face Joshua. Tyson fury can just chill because both will have to fight him sooner or later. If push comes to shove they know that Tyson Fury probably will accept a low ball offer just to call their bluff because he ain’t too bothered. Think about how he got the Klitschko fight ...

I am am boxing fan love the sport and think all 3 are magnificent but my opinion is Tyson is #1 and given half a chance he is ready to prove it.

[Plick647]

thats why hes calling whoever out
no, hes FIGHTING and getting ready to fight AGAIN
and your boy joshua us doing what??
begging?
hahahahahahahahahahaahha
nice try. and your attack was rather personal. your mother wouldnt approve!

[OldTerry]

I like Wilder but Jesus Christ! Accept the fight to fight Joshua already! It will be the biggest pay day of Wilder's career if he accepts!

It will be Wilder's biggest payday for sure but why should it happen before his rematch with Fury? Let the fight marinate like Hearn said earlier.

[N/A]

Ring which for once in its history is separated from lineal status it could be argued.

Once Oscar De La Hoya bought Ring Magazine and changed all the rules, Ring and lineal no longer had anything to do with each other.

Like when Ring stripped lineal champion Adonis Stevenson so HBO could have the Ring title for Ward vs Kovalev.

[Noelanthony]

Tyson Fury is in the best position because he was unified and lineal Champion in fact you could argue he is still lineal albeit not Ring which for once in its history is separated from lineal status it could be argued.

Fury is not burdened by the ambitions of taking ownership of these belts he has had them so he doesn’t have that motivation he just wants to prove he is the best and that’s why he came back so for him negotiations are easy and made even easier because he firmly believes neither Wilder or Joshua can beat him I would tend to agree. Further more if he does beat either he will become 2x Heavyweight Champion even better than what either Wilder or Joshua can achieve without having the inherent desire to take on risky fights.

The other two are in a difficult position because they are jostling for titles and money. So Aj has 4 of 5 so believes highly likely he wants 80/20 that may have changed now that they desperately need this fight to remain relevant. Regardless of what matchroom say that’s a fact if Fury vs Wilder 2 happens they will be a bit in the slipstream and it will hurt them in revenue and reputation hence why the offensive marketing and publicity a bit distasteful if you ask me they could conduct themselves with a bit more class especially if they want to present themselves as role model not to mention they look desperate now.

They want nothing to do with Fury that’s clear because they know their man will struggle against such a skilled opponent surely if Wilder couldn’t land or Klitschko does Aj have the speed to touch this guy. To be honest I’m not sure but he has the conditioning and the power to last 12 rounds. It’s a huge risk a huge huge risk, they better off hoping he disappears like last time.

Wilder obviously is in a difficult position because he has called out Aj and wants to be undisputed so there is an option there if he feels they pay him right. Now it’s important to understand that he deserves some big numbers regardless of historical revenue because this fight in itself will generates so much more than a mandatory for Aj. So what does he do? He knows he struggled with Fury and needs to improve there maybe he comes unstuck again in second outing is it worth the risk? Does he take on Fury now showcase his revenue and then come to negotiate with matchroom a bigger slice or does he cash his chips in now and fight Joshua on matchroom driven terms and risk it.

The landscape is complex I think Aj desperately try to stay relevant now as matchroom strategy is facing some pressing questions people are starting to doubt and well that’s normal in boxing. If they are who they say they are then hold the titles high and take on all comers.

Wilder next fight is highly likely Fury if not he will have to face Joshua. Tyson fury can just chill because both will have to fight him sooner or later. If push comes to shove they know that Tyson Fury probably will accept a low ball offer just to call their bluff because he ain’t too bothered. Think about how he got the Klitschko fight ...

I am am boxing fan love the sport and think all 3 are magnificent but my opinion is Tyson is #1 and given half a chance he is ready to prove it.

I don’t agree with everything you said but very well articulated

[OldTerry]

Do you know what puzzles me is that you claim to be Wilder fans and I will not sit here and pretend Hearn aswell as Joshua have not said some ****** S#hit over the last few months and contradicted themselves. However, as a Wilder fan wouldn’t it be your aim to see him undisputed champion? Why are you all so keen to see him fight Fury? Most of you knew he lost and was happy to keep his belt. Why doesn’t anyone campaign or Wilder to fight Joshua. If you really doubt they are serious at least call their bluff. Most of you When Eddie was ****ing on about making the fight you were all saying wait until after the 1st . You were lucky but you live to see another day now turn your intentions on being the king of the division.

Instead you are content on Fury ,as it was a great fight. Lol. What was great Fury schooled Wilder and Wilder knocked him down dramatically in the 12th.

Don’t get me wrong Fury is a boss and he deserves a rematch and it would be a good fight but it’s just strange nobody is bothered about seeing it next

Let's pretend that your question was directed to me. This would be my answer: I remember all the frustration and BS coming from Hearn when all of us Wilder fans wanted the AJ fight. Eddie and many of AJ fans would ridicule us and Eddie would have AJ fight another chump. When Wilder decided to fight Fury I thought that was great and figured to hell with AJ (because of Hearn). Wilder is in the driver's seat now and Fury is sitting next to him and they will fight their rematch no matter how many tantrums and hissy fits Hearn throws their way. It's our turn now and AJ and Hearn can just wait, just like they made Wilder wait.

[OldTerry]

You guys are so satisfied that Deontay Wilder is ducking that you've decided to live in an alternate reality with him. The guy openly says that it ain't about Joshua 'nem no more", meaning that he refuses to fight or we will only fight if Hearn doesn't speak to the media or that he will only fight if he gets 60/40 in his favor or that he won't sign a contract without as date and location or he will only fight in the United States or that he will only fight Tyson Fury again next or whatever other excuse he'll come up with next.

All those things you said Wilder would do are possible and you know why? It's because he's in the driver's seat now and not AJ (no disrespect to AJ who would be my betting favorite).

[mapleleaf27]

Go find out what dosser means you ******!

You are the ldiot, Wilder has a contract still in his lap, if he wants the work he should sign it, stop bringing up the past, we are at the present and a contract has been sent to your bum champ! All he needs to do is sign then the fight gets made, he can run but he can’t hide. The fans demands this fight ASAP!

hahahahaha, this contract that you SPEAK of , you seem to know the whereabouts of it...do you have a copy yourself which you can share , or are just pretending to know something which does not exist....produce links and sources or STFU, baglicker...
slurp on this mate...

https://www.boxingscene.com/barry-hearn-we-wait-two-years-make-joshua-wilder--131404

http://boxingego.com/barry-hearn-told-anthony-joshua-to-wait-2-years-to-fight-deontay-wilder/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/bo...rry-Hearn.html