Comments Thread For: Ryan Garcia Blasts Out Braulio Rodriguez in Fifth Round

[BigStomps]

you don't keep anything real. You defend Canelo and ignore facts. You make stuff up as to why he dropped a title, or why he chose Smith over the Charlos and you're lying when you talk about the level of fighter that Smith and khan are. You're assuming I'm black because I've mentioned Charlos and mayweathers but I never said I was black. I've had people on here assume I'm black, puerto Rican, Cuban, European, based on what I've posted, but y'all don't get that's its possible to criticize and support certain fighters without race or nationalism being involved. But that's not the case with you, or most canelo fans. The ones who defend Canelo on here are 95% Mexicans who only support him because of that. If he wasn't Mexican, you'd admit that everything I said about him is accurate. You'd actually hate him if he wasn't Mexican. Especially for the ggg duck, the frequent cherry picking over the last 4 yrs, and the peds alone. That's what makes you and most of his fan base hypocrites.

Of course I support Canelo cause he's Mexican like me! Same fuccing reason blacks support Mayweather and whites support Lomachenko and Puerto Ricans support Cotto!
But I also criticize Canelo when he deserves it!
But I noticed you didn't dispute that Khan and Smith are better fighters than anyone the Charlos have ever fought...
So if you think Canelo has been cherry picking the last 4 years then tell me what the Charlos have been doing throughout their whole careers??
I'll wait for an answer on that...

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Of course I support Canelo cause he's Mexican like me! Same fuccing reason blacks support Mayweather and whites support Lomachenko and Puerto Ricans support Cotto!
But I also criticize Canelo when he deserves it!
But I noticed you didn't dispute that Khan and Smith are better fighters than anyone the Charlos have ever fought...
So if you think Canelo has been cherry picking the last 4 years then tell me what the Charlos have been doing throughout their whole careers??
I'll wait for an answer on that...

1. Smith and khan would not beat Trout nor would they beat Julian Williams. What you're not grasping is there is a difference between being in Canelos position where you can make whatever fight you want and choosing not to do so and being in the position of the Charlos and having to chase guys like Canelo or ggg to fight you. Guys like mayweather, pac or cotto in the previous generation had the opportunity that they could fight whoever they'd want because of A side power. Guys like Paul Williams, Margarito, and others were looked at as high risk and low reward had to scrap to try and get fights with the big names. That's the difference.

[Lion81]

This jab jab phagget is seriously obssessed with Mexican fighter threads lol

[BigStomps]

1. Smith and khan would not beat Trout nor would they beat Julian Williams. What you're not grasping is there is a difference between being in Canelos position where you can make whatever fight you want and choosing not to do so and being in the position of the Charlos and having to chase guys like Canelo or ggg to fight you. Guys like mayweather, pac or cotto in the previous generation had the opportunity that they could fight whoever they'd want because of A side power. Guys like Paul Williams, Margarito, and others were looked at as high risk and low reward had to scrap to try and get fights with the big names. That's the difference.

You're right to an extent..
But Khan would easily outbox Trout and there's a chance he could outbox Jrock if he doesn't get knocked out first and Smith will beat Trout and it's a 50/50 fight between Jrock and Smith .
So Jrock and Trout are the Charlos best wins... That doesn't say much about them then...
But you're right on Canelo's ability to make any fight he wants.... He is the A side and he can pretty much fight whoever he wants.
But the same thing can be said about the Charlos to an extent...
They could easily fight guys within the PBC stable if they wanted too...
Lara and at one time Jacobs was under the PBC stable... Why aren't those fights made??
If you wanna say Canelo is ducking fights then you gotta admit the Charlos are ducking fights also...
Wouldn't you agree on that??

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You're right to an extent..
But Khan would easily outbox Trout and there's a chance he could outbox Jrock if he doesn't get knocked out first and Smith will beat Trout and it's a 50/50 fight between Jrock and Smith .
So Jrock and Trout are the Charlos best wins... That doesn't say much about them then...
But you're right on Canelo's ability to make any fight he wants.... He is the A side and he can pretty much fight whoever he wants.
But the same thing can be said about the Charlos to an extent...
They could easily fight guys within the PBC stable if they wanted too...
Lara and at one time Jacobs was under the PBC stable... Why aren't those fights made??
If you wanna say Canelo is ducking fights then you gotta admit the Charlos are ducking fights also...
Wouldn't you agree on that??

ok, fair enough on the ducking part. Although I do think Charlos would jump at the opportunity to fight Canelo or ggg if the fights presented themselves. I don't agree with you that don't khan outboxes trout though. To me khan has always been hyped because of his speed but I think his technique is sloppy af. That's why he always gets dropped. I've seen him struggle with algieri as well as with Samuel vargas. Trout has a win over cotto and fought canelo and both Charlos pretty competitively. I think he handles khan.

[BigStomps]

ok, fair enough on the ducking part. Although I do think Charlos would jump at the opportunity to fight Canelo or ggg if the fights presented themselves. I don't agree with you that don't khan outboxes trout though. To me khan has always been hyped because of his speed but I think his technique is sloppy af. That's why he always gets dropped. I've seen him struggle with algieri as well as with Samuel vargas. Trout has a win over cotto and fought canelo and both Charlos pretty competitively. I think he handles khan.

Okay fair enough.Trout is competitive in every fight he's in and Khan is a sloppy fighter so he could get beat by Trout too..
As far as the Charlos I'm sure they'd both take the Canelo fight in a heartbeat!
Now when I say they ducking fights in no way am I insinuating they scared. I don't believe neither Charlo is afraid of anyone. But I do think they don't wanna take certain fights that might ruin their chances of getting the Canelo fight. Every fighter wants the Canelo fight.
I don't believe Canelo is afraid of anyone either.
But I do believe Oscar is protecting Canelo. I've always felt that.
But Canelo really needs to step up soon and fight Jacobs and Charlo.
He's at his peak so no point waiting for him to mature more or marinating the fights.
Like I said, Canelo against Charlo or Jacobs are 50-50 fights that either fighter can win.
If he don't fight one of them soon then I'll have to consider to stop supporting Canelo..

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Okay fair enough.Trout is competitive in every fight he's in and Khan is a sloppy fighter so he could get beat by Trout too..
As far as the Charlos I'm sure they'd both take the Canelo fight in a heartbeat!
Now when I say they ducking fights in no way am I insinuating they scared. I don't believe neither Charlo is afraid of anyone. But I do think they don't wanna take certain fights that might ruin their chances of getting the Canelo fight. Every fighter wants the Canelo fight.
I don't believe Canelo is afraid of anyone either.
But I do believe Oscar is protecting Canelo. I've always felt that.
But Canelo really needs to step up soon and fight Jacobs and Charlo.
He's at his peak so no point waiting for him to mature more or marinating the fights.
Like I said, Canelo against Charlo or Jacobs are 50-50 fights that either fighter can win.
If he don't fight one of them soon then I'll have to consider to stop supporting Canelo..

Agreed on pretty much everything. I also don't think there's fear from most fighters but mostly from the promotors. The problem arises when the fighters become too complicit and that's what I mean with Canelo. Before, he went against Oscar and told him, make the fight with trout, or make the fight with lara. He seems to have stopped doing that and if may is another soft touch, that won't be a good look.

[OCPancho]

y'all just hate to hear the truth. Tell me the truth, we're you jumping up and down on your mom's sofa cheering and screaming "yayyyyy" like a f@g over Canelo beating a D level fighter tonight? Were you impressed with garcia beating a Dominican Barber who lost 2 fights in a row leading up to it?

NYSAC should be shot for approving that match.
Maybe they wanted their own of Jimmy Garcia.

The bum looked like a freaking BAD amateur.

Golden Gurl Pompoms is milking Ryan as long as they can b/c when that chin gets checked, he might become Victor Ortiz.

[BigStomps]

Agreed on pretty much everything. I also don't think there's fear from most fighters but mostly from the promotors. The problem arises when the fighters become too complicit and that's what I mean with Canelo. Before, he went against Oscar and told him, make the fight with trout, or make the fight with lara. He seems to have stopped doing that and if may is another soft touch, that won't be a good look.

I agree with you on that!
Canelo definitely needs to step up and tell Oscar to Make the Jacobs and Charlo fight!

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I agree with you on that!
Canelo definitely needs to step up and tell Oscar to Make the Jacobs and Charlo fight!

yeah, those would be the only 2 acceptable opponents right now at mw. I would've said the winner of Andrade vs saunders could've been an option also but since that fight never happened, they need to fall in line. I don't want to see Canelo vs ggg 3 either.