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  • andinova
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    #1

    All elite amateurs became sudenly pro

    Would pros like spence , canelo ... resist against the cuban and kazaks aiba champions ?
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    I do like the elite ams turning over and stepping up the levels quickly.

    The game needs them.

    The network politics in America make some of the top Americans unfollowable for me. That whole welter division pisses me off

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    • NEETzsche
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      You mean if they were dumped immediately into professional world title bouts? Elite amateurs turn pro all the time and they almost always take several years to warm into the pro game. Lomachenko being one of the few exceptions of course. In terms of medallists from Rio 2016, Ramirez and Argilagos from Cuba and Yeleussinov and Dychko from Kazakhstan are based in America now and we'll see what they can do in the pros. As for the Cubans who don't defect, I believe that most of the podium squad could pick up professional world titles with the right guidance. Andy Cruz and Julio Cesar La Cruz in particular would have a good shot at becoming #1 in their respective divisions and P4P ranked

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      • boliodogs
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        #4
        Originally posted by andinova
        Would pros like spence , canelo ... resist against the cuban and kazaks aiba champions ?
        I think Canelo and Spence would KO any amateur boxer. There just aren't many amateurs as good as Loma. He is the exception not the rule. You just don't jump from short amateur fights to taking on the best professionals. Not a good idea. Spence and Canelo were amateurs first and worked their way up the pro ranks and they are seasoned and proven.

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        • KTFOKING
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          Originally posted by NEETzsche
          You mean if they were dumped immediately into professional world title bouts? Elite amateurs turn pro all the time and they almost always take several years to warm into the pro game. Lomachenko being one of the few exceptions of course. In terms of medallists from Rio 2016, Ramirez and Argilagos from Cuba and Yeleussinov and Dychko from Kazakhstan are based in America now and we'll see what they can do in the pros. As for the Cubans who don't defect, I believe that most of the podium squad could pick up professional world titles with the right guidance. Andy Cruz and Julio Cesar La Cruz in particular would have a good shot at becoming #1 in their respective divisions and P4P ranked
          Ramirez is a guy I'm super intrigued to see turn professional. Fought the Olympics in a higher weight class than his natural weight and still won the gold.

          Julio Cesar La Cruz back in June got stopped by American Khalil Coe who barely had like 25 amateur fights. Got caught and dropped in the first round. Granted, stoppage was a bit early but I'm not sure he would be close to being the best of his weight class in the professional rank.

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          • NEETzsche
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            #6
            Originally posted by KTFOKING
            Ramirez is a guy I'm super intrigued to see turn professional. Fought the Olympics in a higher weight class than his natural weight and still won the gold.

            Julio Cesar La Cruz back in June got stopped by American Khalil Coe who barely had like 25 amateur fights. Got caught and dropped in the first round. Granted, stoppage was a bit early but I'm not sure he would be close to being the best of his weight class in the professional rank.
            La Cruz is arguably past his prime already and being dropped in one bout during a minor tournament when he fights dozens of times per year doesn't mean he's exposed. His defensive style is high risk, high reward, just like Fury and Rigondeaux, who despite being caught occasionally are still considered elite pros. And we don't know how good Coe is yet, he may be a prodigy

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            • KTFOKING
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              #7
              Originally posted by NEETzsche
              La Cruz is arguably past his prime already and being dropped in one bout during a minor tournament when he fights dozens of times per year doesn't mean he's exposed. His defensive style is high risk, high reward, just like Fury and Rigondeaux, who despite being caught occasionally are still considered elite pros. And we don't know how good Coe is yet, he may be a prodigy
              I didn't say he was exposed but just that he probably wouldn't be the best in his weight class if he turned professional. La Cruz didn't look good in the prior tournament nor the fight prior go Coe either. Past his prime is accurate IMO.

              Coe very well may be a prodigy, but he's still super inexperienced. He just recently lost but amazing what he is doing with so few fights.

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