opinion on joe calzaghe

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  • Zaroku
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    #11
    Joe was a punching/slapping machine. Like the energizer bunny on American tv.

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    • Nash out
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      #12
      Ten times better than Roy Jones Jr ever was.

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      • E-Thug
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        #13
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        Overrated slapper that avoided the best with lame excuses about being afraid to fly etc. Overcame the fear when the fighters he avoided were way past their best.
        This 100%. Glad we're part of the few Brits who can see through the B. S.

        Awful resume, only fought 3 fighters ranked in the top 5 throughout the entirety of his career, 21 title defences but against some absolutely awful competition, shat his pants when it mattered most.

        Calzaghe was Warren's original experiment of taking the path of least resistance. He tried the same **** with Flanagan but we know how that turned out

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          He was an elite level fighter but is largely overrated due to being 46-0. In reality his resume isn’t all that strong. His only elite level wins were B-Hop and Kessler IMO, Lacy was a great performance but Lacy was a hype job if we’re being honest.

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            #15
            Originally posted by E-Thug
            This 100%. Glad we're part of the few Brits who can see through the B. S.

            Awful resume, only fought 3 fighters ranked in the top 5 throughout the entirety of his career, 21 title defences but against some absolutely awful competition, shat his pants when it mattered most.

            Calzaghe was Warren's original experiment of taking the path of least resistance. He tried the same **** with Flanagan but we know how that turned out
            Eubank
            Brewer
            Reid
            Woodall
            Brewer
            Mitchell
            Lacy
            Bika
            Kessler
            Hopkins
            Jones Jr

            😂😂Calzaghe is definitely overrated but his resume is far from “awful”. You just sound bitter saying stuff like that

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            • BWC
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              #16
              Helluva fighter but decided he was happy fighting stiffs in the UK for the most part. His talent was larger than his ambition.

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              • GhostofDempsey
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                #17
                A lot of American fighters didn't want to cross the pond to fight him during his prime. Very underrated fighter.

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                • chrisJS
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                  #18
                  A great fighter for sure. He was fast, intelligent, full of energy and just had this way about him in the ring where he could just adapt to anything and was unpredictable but largely always in control. His resume of opponents isn't amazing (in reality very few modern fighters are in historical context compared to guys from the 20s to the 80's) but there's big moments in there.

                  Lacy was supposed to pummel him (which was a ridiculous notion at the time IMO I always knew Lacy was a hypejob in the manner a Tank Davis is today), Kessler was at that time a unified and unbeaten champion and this is also before the injuries started to get the better of him the following year and then Hopkins was dominated really. Hopkins went on to score some big wins afterwards lending some credit to the win. Hopkins wanted to quit and gave up trying to win by the halfway point totally unable to keep pace with Calzaghe. Remember Hopkins ducked him back in 2002 when he was negotiating a three fight showtime deal - it was going to be Hakaar, Simon and Calzaghe and I think Calzaghe was the deal breaker for him.

                  There was a lot of crap in there too but some solid wins like Eubank, Woodhall, Brewer, Reid, Veit, Sheika, Bika, Mitchell that add up a little and you've got some good stats and numbers like winning every belt, reigning for 10 years, 21 defenses and 46-0.

                  I think I'd rate him between 75-100 all-time p4p, probably around 5-6 among the best British fighters, a top 10 European fighter and one of the top 12 boxers of the last 25 years and the best ever at 168.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by hotshot1
                    do you think he was good to watch? exciting?
                    I think he's been retired for 10 year and just lost his dad. RIP Enzo

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                      A lot of American fighters didn't want to cross the pond to fight him during his prime. Very underrated fighter.
                      Oh yea? Which ones exactly?

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