Canelo will NOT be a 3 division champ if he beats Fielding.

[aboutfkntime]

Anyone who supports ANY of the WBA's titles is a laughing stock. The WBA isn't deserving of recognition. The second they instituted the super title decades ago, they should have been immediately stripped of recognition. If you continue to recognize ANY of the WBA's titles, you are part of the problem.

says the guy who recognizes - therefore supports - their regular/interim rubbish

anyone who supports that junk is the WHOLE problem

the WBA is an official, and universally recognized, sanctioning body..... your opinion to the contrary, is irrelevant..... but what is not relevant, are their greedy corrupt junior titles.....

..... still waiting for you to provide a link where the networks/managers lament the loss of the WBA rubbish titles..... either from Mendoza or from a manager???

[Nay_Sayer]

This is a pity party? The only one who needs pity is you.

When the champ ducks you, no one with any standards will still call you champ. It goes to the one you ducked. In a sport like boxing that is a fate worse than death because it's so embarrassing. Only those who are bottom feeders and stalker weirdo types will disagree. So well done.

You mean like how Bumlovkin ducked Erislandy Lara and Andre Ward?

[Nay_Sayer]

the wba is older than the wbc by like a month or two.

That's not correct. The WBA goes back to the time of Joe Louis or even earlier. In fact, the WBC is a spin off organization of the WBA..

[Nay_Sayer]

Only slightly better. That isn’t saying much.

Hopkins has the KO wins over Trinidad and an *undefeated* Glen Johnson. Those wins alone do the R Kelly on Bumlovkin's whole career...

[aboutfkntime]

Yes.

The WBA world champion is the WBA world champion.

The WBA super champion is the WBA super champion. Very simple.

stop making up rubbish to support your silly viewpoint

the WBA have three titles per division.....

* super
* regular
* interim

NOWHERE does it say " world ", you completely made that up

let's see what Mendoza has to say on the subject.....

"In the heavyweights division we created a tournament that we could not finish last year because of the many inconveniences. For this reason I will clarify it here: Klitschko vs. Joshua is for the super championship, Briggs Vs Oquendo is for the regular title. The winner of the first match must go before Luis Ortiz and the winer of the second against Alexander Ustinov," Mendoza said.

and again.....

"I am focused on only having a single champion [in each weight class]. There are members of the past directory that say there are weight categories that deserve a regular champion where there is a super champion, but I am very fussy about that subject," said Mendoza to ESPN Deportes."

and again.....

"WBA President Gilberto Mendoza named current ‘Super’ champion Tyson Fury, ‘Regular’ champion Ruslan Chagaev and ‘Interim’ title holder Luis Ortiz
as part of seven contenders in the tournament. The remaining boxers include Wladimir Klitschko, Lucas Browne, Alexander Ustinov and Fres Oquendo."

stop making up stuff to support your unnecessary, pointless agenda

[BattlingNelson]

It's easily verifiable public information. I'm sorry if you don't know anything about the history of the sport.

No it isn’t and I’ve forgotten more about boxing than you’ll ever learn son.

[BattlingNelson]

That's not correct. The WBA goes back to the time of Joe Louis or even earlier. In fact, the WBC is a spin off organization of the WBA..

The story of the alphabet boys can be found here:

17 weightclasses and 68 'world' champions (potentially more if you include small governing bodies such as IBO, WBF etc.). That's the chaotic situation in professional boxing today.

How did it get this far?

Some objective info FYI regarding boxings socalled governing bodies.

WBA (World Boxing Association): Based in Venezuela. It's the oldest and most renowned (if such a term can be used regarding these guys) organization. It was founded in 1921 as National Boxing Association (NBA) and was renamed WBA in 1962. Famous champions include Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano.

Confusion is the keyword when the organization is described these days. They have a 'Superchampion' when one of their champions unifies against one of the other 3 major beltholders. The regular title is then placed in a new championship fight pitting 2 lower-ranked fighters.


WBC (World Boxing Council): A decadelong struggle between between WBA and the powerful New York State Athletic Commision let to the founding of the WBC in 1963. But it took untill 1978 before the organization crowned it's first heavyweight champion in Ken Norton. Before that the WBA champion was also the WBC champion. The organization is based in Mexico.


IBF (International Boxing Federation): This organization, which is based in New Jersey, originates from one of the many regional federations of the WBA. In 1983 the president of the United States Boxing Association, lost the election as the chairman of the WBA during the annual convention. As a protest he founded the IBF.

One of the great IBF champions is Felix Trinidad who was the IBF champ from 1993 to 2002.

WBO (World Boxing Organization): The WBO was founded in 1988 and is also an offspring from the WBA. There was a minority within the organization which wasn't satisfied with certain rules and regulations within the WBA. WBO is based in Puerto Rico.

The WBO rankings contained in the 1990'ies primarily european fighters and to this day is not in the highest regard in the United States although it's rising.

[GhostofDempsey]

Hopkins has the KO wins over Trinidad and an *undefeated* Glen Johnson. Those wins alone do the R Kelly on Bumlovkin's whole career...

Two blown up welters and Tarver, those are his greatest wins. Ok wins, not great.

[N/A]

stop making up rubbish to support your silly viewpoint

the WBA have three titles per division.....

* super
* regular
* interim

NOWHERE does it say " world ", you completely made that up

Here are the most recent WBA ratings:

http://www.wbaboxing.com/wp-content/...8-november.pdf

The word "super" appears in the document 38 times.

The word "world" appears in the document 18 times.

The word "regular" doesn't appear anywhere in the document.

[N/A]

That's not correct. The WBA goes back to the time of Joe Louis or even earlier. In fact, the WBC is a spin off organization of the WBA..

None of that is true.

The NBA does go back to 1921, and the WBA is a reboot of that NBA that occurred in 1962, but the WBC didn't spin off from the WBA. The IBF and WBO did, but not the WBC.

The WBC was founded by the EBU, BBBoC and countless others, before then being joined by the NYSAC. The EBU was formed out of the IBU and the BBBoC was formed out of the NSC, meaning the WBC championship, via the NYSAC, IBU, BBBoC traces back to 1910, just as the WBA championship, via the NBA, traces back to 1921.