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  • KTFOKING
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    #41
    Originally posted by Boy Jones Jr.
    Where does it say he needs five best wins?

    It didnt.

    Funny how now power and athleticism is good enough for people to say a fighter without any top tier wins, beats one of the 10 best fighters today, because of “power and athleticism”. Lets be real. People were waiting for Loma to not have a ko or stoppage so they can say they see flaws and thats why Tank beats him.

    If only the guy had that same confidence.
    You asked why people think Davis could beat Lomachenko. I listed the reasons. Whether you agree or not is your opinion.

    Of course those that don't like Lomachenko will point to anything they can to say he is overrated or he is slowing down etc. That's par for course with boxing fans. However, it is 100% accurate to say he hasn't looked as dominant against bigger fighters at 135 as he did at 126 or 130. But in terms of this hypothetical match up vs Davis, I'm assuming it would take place at 130 so the size and weight class would be moot points.

    And yes, I really wish Davis and his team had more confidence. I want that fight to happen and was calling for it even before the Pedraza fight. A competitive loss isn't going to hurt Davis, likely to do the opposite.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #42
      Originally posted by Boy Jones Jr.
      Where does it say he needs five best wins?

      It didnt.

      Funny how now power and athleticism is good enough for people to say a fighter without any top tier wins, beats one of the 10 best fighters today, because of “power and athleticism”. Lets be real. People were waiting for Loma to not have a ko or stoppage so they can say they see flaws and thats why Tank beats him.

      If only the guy had that same confidence.
      This post makes absolutely no sense. If Tank hadn't beaten Pedrazza, no one would be mentioning that fight. If Loma had won by KO, no one would be discussing which win was "better".

      You actually believe People were waiting for Loma to not have a ko or stoppage so they can say they see flaws and thats why Tank beats him. If so, you need to take this site much less seriously.

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        #43
        Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
        That’s only your perception of Floyd. You’re crazy if you don’t think he has some influence over Haymon. We’re talking about one of the smartest marketers/businessman in boxing. Not to mention he’s heavily invested in PBC. before Pacquiao signed to fight Broner, Floyd said he would be promoting Pacquiao fights. Guess who’s promoting Pacquiao first fight in PBC? Lol.

        I do agree with you when you say the reason so many PBC fighters were inactive is because they didn’t have enough dates. They were waiting until the Fox deal finalized.
        One of the smartest businessman in Floyd? Sure, with the help of Haymon. I mean Floyd the fighter and character definitely helped Haymon out as well, as it helped build his brand. However, what influence would he have on Haymon? Do you think Haymon looks at Floyd as an equal in terms of his intelligence? Do you not think Haymon knows Floyd is way too emotional and unstable at times? If we see all this, you don't think Haymon does? FFS, the man was going to sign his life away to Don King before Haymon stepped in. THAT is the guy Haymon will rely on to make decisions for his product?

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        • jas
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          #44
          Resume doesnt win fights, although experience against tougher fighters can help mould a fighter into being better

          Pick against inoue, who has a relatively weak resume as far as multi-division belt holders go but going by the eye test,he is an exceptional fighter, the best i have seen in the past 15 years ive been watching boxing

          I think davis vs loma is a super close fight honestly. Davis is fresher. And imo will be more willing to exchange. He has unreal speed, power and reflexes.

          I favour davis in 2 years

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          • killakali
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            #45
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            Apples and Oranges are both fruits, which is why I posted alot alike, not exactly alike.

            I just think you should be consistent and note that Walters was off 11 months prior to fighting Loma and had missed weight the previous fight, indicating 126 might be an issue. Similar to what you posted about Pedrazza-was inactive and was having trouble making weight-before the Tank fight.
            that is not exactly true. Walters missed weight at 126 vs Marriaga and then moved up to 130. He made weight can sosa and got robbed with a draw. Should have been a win for walters.

            Pedraza has trouble making weight but hadn’t moved up yet. Walters was at a more comfortable weight when he fought Loma. While Pedraza was shelved and walters decided not to fight.

            Part of what U said is true though.

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              #46
              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              Then I am mistaken, because there is no way in hell do I think Haymon will mess with his business because of Floyd. If we see how idiotic Floyd is, you don't think Haymon knows that?

              So why did Jack only get one date? Why were the Charlo's at one date until the FOX deal?

              Ortiz got that little tune up fight against that bum in July and then was put on the December PPV card just in case Fury pulled out and then he would have been able to step in. Not only that, but Joyce was on that card as well and that sets up that match up for 2019.

              SHO had 12 dates, 13 if you include the PPV in 2018. That's it. Guys like Davis aren't fighting on FS1 or those lower FOX dates that were running until the new deal. Hard for everyone to stay active with so few dates. Just run down the names and see how many fights they got in 2018.

              So if Tank is more active in 2019 will that be because Floyd told Haymon to get him more active? Will Floyd all of a sudden forgive him for supposedly sleeping with his daughter? The reality is there will be more dates for PBC fighters to be more active and that will be the main reason for them fighting more than once a year.

              Haymon isn't letting someone who is 40 years old yet acts like a little kid mess with his business.
              badou Jack said he wanted 2 fights this year but Floyd fidktnhsve the date for him. Not an equal comparison. Tank is with a Haymon. Badou is not with Haymon. Haymon doesn’t owe Badou anything.

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                #47
                Originally posted by killakali
                that is not exactly true. Walters missed weight at 126 vs Marriaga and then moved up to 130. He made weight can sosa and got robbed with a draw. Should have been a win for walters.

                Pedraza has trouble making weight but hadn’t moved up yet. Walters was at a more comfortable weight when he fought Loma. While Pedraza was shelved and walters decided not to fight.

                Part of what U said is true though.
                Yes the draw was terrible. Walters wasn't given the fight immediately as he should've been when both were 126. He got a crappy offer. You can't forget that. Then when he finally got a decent offer it was much later and back down at 126.

                I think its clear Bob did that to protect Loma who has more upside, sort of like how he mad Cotto fight Manny at 145.

                As long as you are consistent in pointing this out same as you did Pedrazza I have no issue.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by killakali
                  badou Jack said he wanted 2 fights this year but Floyd fidktnhsve the date for him. Not an equal comparison. Tank is with a Haymon. Badou is not with Haymon. Haymon doesn’t owe Badou anything.
                  Except Haymon is the one that will still dictate which card Jack is on. Jack isn't just going to be able to fight a non-Haymon fighter. His next fight is against Marcus Browne....Who happens to be with? Haymon. While Jack is't officially signed with Haymon, the dates Mayweather Promotions is able to get is through Haymon.

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                  • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by killakali
                    badou Jack said he wanted 2 fights this year but Floyd fidktnhsve the date for him. Not an equal comparison. Tank is with a Haymon. Badou is not with Haymon. Haymon doesn’t owe Badou anything.
                    Al Haymon is Badou Jack advisor

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                    • KTFOKING
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
                      Al Haymon is Badou Jack advisor
                      Don't think he is signed to Haymon.

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