Comments Thread For: Wilder Laughs: Joshua, Hearn Definitely 'Begging' Now To Fight!

[Throwingbombs]

Get better at making s hit up. The above is garbage. Ortiz and Fury are consensus 2 of the best heavyweights in the division.

Nah disagree. Only Wilder fans rate Ortiz so highly, nobody else. There are better fighters in the division who have proved more and have better resumes. Povetkin, Whyte etc

Agree on Fury though, he proved that by beating Klitschko and Wilder

[BattlingNelson]

By taking on a higher ranked fighter at home with more money on the line. Yeah, what a bastard. Boxing will only survive if you take on low ranked fighters instead of the top guys. Haha.

Errmm... Higher ranked? You mean he became mandatory by beating Parker? You are trolling and surely a high ranked member of the Hearn Defense Squad.

[_Rexy_]

Nah disagree. Only Wilder fans rate Ortiz so highly, nobody else. There are better fighters in the division who have proved more and have better resumes. Povetkin, Whyte etc

Agree on Fury though, he proved that by beating Klitschko and Wilder

Ortiz is #4 on Ring, #5 TBRB and #4 ESPN. Are they all Wilder fanboys? Seems to me that the only people rating Ortiz so low are Joshua fans, justifying Whyte calling Ortiz out and then running back to Del Boy with his tail tucked.

(Nobody has Chisora top 10 btw)

[Ake-Dawg]

Nah disagree. Only Wilder fans rate Ortiz so highly, nobody else. There are better fighters in the division who have proved more and have better resumes. Povetkin, Whyte etc

Agree on Fury though, he proved that by beating Klitschko and Wilder

Are you serious? Povetkin is nothing without the juice. Name a fight he has looked good I. With testing? There is a reason he was caught TWICE. Whyte was just almost KO'd by pillow fisted Parker. Or did we forget that. Now he is rematching Chisora, a guy who us the definition of a gatekeeper fighter in a rematch instead of Ortiz. Nothing about those two resumes or fighting style suggests they are better than Ortiz.

I keep asking but no one answers...was Parker ever good? He had a belt, but went life Nd depth with Ruiz for it then stunk up the joint versus Hughie Fury. So what does a sc**** by win over Parker really say about a fighter?

[Curt Henning]

Ortiz is #4 on Ring, #5 TBRB and #4 ESPN. Are they all Wilder fanboys? Seems to me that the only people rating Ortiz so low are Joshua fans, justifying Whyte calling Ortiz out and then running back to Del Boy with his tail tucked.

(Nobody has Chisora top 10 btw)

hahaha these are facts...both ortiz and wilder are top 5....if those guys are so awful what does that say about the division that AJ "reigns" over?

the reality wilder has fought ortiz and fury in the last year...both top 5 guys....and he would have savagely KO'd AJs last win before AJ could fight him if the guy didnt test dirty to avoid wilder.....

now AJ wants to rematch a guy hes already beaten....and that guy has beaten lucas browne and about to fight a gatekeeper soon......and beat a guy who could barely lay a glove on joshua and almost got ko'd by him...lol

AJ fans are in such denial about their hero and his fights....

[Curt Henning]

Nah disagree. Only Wilder fans rate Ortiz so highly, nobody else. There are better fighters in the division who have proved more and have better resumes. Povetkin, Whyte etc

Agree on Fury though, he proved that by beating Klitschko and Wilder

so by logic.....how do we rate fury for beating wilder? since wilders only decent win is against trash ortiz? and wilder himself is obviously trash?

so fury beat wlad a few years ago? now we must consider him great for beating trash wilder who only beat trash ortiz? lol

u guys paint yourselves into a corner everytime...logically beating wilder must mean nothing according to your logic...yet want to use wilder to prop of furys rating

you guys are dumb...if ortiz sucks..and wilder sucks...then the entire division your boy "rules" is utter trash...since ortiz and wilder are consensus top 5 guys

[Jax teller]

Ortiz is #4 on Ring, #5 TBRB and #4 ESPN. Are they all Wilder fanboys? Seems to me that the only people rating Ortiz so low are Joshua fans, justifying Whyte calling Ortiz out and then running back to Del Boy with his tail tucked.

(Nobody has Chisora top 10 btw)

The very ranking system you just quoted (TBRB) have Chisora at #7 you couldn't show your fanboy bias idiocy anymore if you tried also they have Whyte at #3 above Ortiz. Plus Chisora is top ten WBC, WBA and IBF (and IBO but I'll allow you to ignore this one).

[_Rexy_]

The very ranking system you just quoted (TBRB) have Chisora at #7 you couldn't show your fanboy bias idiocy anymore if you tried also they have Whyte at #3 above Ortiz. Plus Chisora is top ten WBC, WBA and IBF (and IBO but I'll allow you to ignore this one).

The fact you use sanctioning body rankings shows how uneducated you are. The rankings by sanctioning bodies has nothing to do with where a fighter is actually ranked talent wise, but has to do with being registered with that body, paying the fees, and fighting fighters also registered to that body. (As well as politics, but that’s not important at this time) Which is why you had Fury ranked top 6 (I believe) with the WBC, but unranked with the other 3 bodies.

And I never said Whyte wasn’t ranked above Ortiz by TBRB, I was showing that Ortiz was top 5 on the big independent rank lists. A good way for them to settle it would be for them to fight each other since they are beside each other in the rankings like you pointed out. Instead Whyte will fight Chisora, who as you mentioned is #7 on TBRB. cool. I missed that. My mistake. To you, 3 vs 7 is a much more compelling fight than 3 vs 4. Again, cool. But I can watch that fight on YouTube.

[JWHardin]

Ortiz is #4 on Ring, #5 TBRB and #4 ESPN. Are they all Wilder fanboys? Seems to me that the only people rating Ortiz so low are Joshua fans, justifying Whyte calling Ortiz out and then running back to Del Boy with his tail tucked.

(Nobody has Chisora top 10 btw)

Lol love it. Well said.

[JWHardin]

A lot of that money was coming from BT. Don't try and pretend otherwise. They would have looked to bid more for AJ even though they knew he couldn't do it. It's all bull**** and you know it. Stop with these lies.

Lies? Says the guy that is parroting more Hearn lies. When AJ turned down the deal, he didn’t once mention an issue with the fact that BT could bid for US rights, but instead turned it down saying he suddenly had a change of heart and wanted the bout in the UK. This BT element thing is just a late excuse Hearn came up with to excuse his rejecting a deal AJ promised he’d accept.