Nonito Donaires biggest mistake was leaving Victor Conte, he was a monster with him

[TheGR8TESTOAT]

Lol.
Sounds like a cool dude if ya don't ask him his secret but once you do it's to hell with you.
Definitely something shady about him.
What you wrote their just made up my mind about him.

Yeah so VC was like a guitar player or something in that band Tower of Power so my friend was like hey how did you go from like a successful rockstar to another completely different field being even more successful?

So either he's like real salty about his former band mates in Tower of Power or its what you concluded.

But imagine like making a vitamin or whatever for athletes and their career skyrockets and so does yours. Id imagine athletes would be paying him under the table too right like in cash so they won't be traced even? So he's like untouchable its like win win win situation for him.

[BLASTER1]

Yeah so VC was like a guitar player or something in that band Tower of Power so my friend was like hey how did you go from like a successful rockstar to another completely different field being even more successful?

So either he's like real salty about his former band mates in Tower of Power or its what you concluded.

But imagine like making a vitamin or whatever for athletes and their career skyrockets and so does yours. Id imagine athletes would be paying him under the table too right like in cash so they won't be traced even? So he's like untouchable its like win win win situation for him.

Yer he must have some sort of education regarding nutrition and health in sport plus some sort of chemistry knowledge.
He has done very well for himself.
No-one can doubt that.
I'm Australian so I've not heard of Tower of Power.
Most musicians are pretty cool people to be around though.
Did Tower of Power do alright for themselves?

[TheGR8TESTOAT]

Yer he must have some sort of education regarding nutrition and health in sport plus some sort of chemistry knowledge.
He has done very well for himself.
No-one can doubt that.
I'm Australian so I've not heard of Tower of Power.
Most musicians are pretty cool people to be around though.
Did Tower of Power do alright for themselves?

T.O.P. is not like a house hold name band. I think most Americans never even heard of them. I saw them on the billboards for the smaller casinos way far out in the desert. So they are on that level.

They are like a funk band and never had any huge commercial hits or success. Thats probably why VC left them to do this over business cuz shoot Id rather be a rockstar or movie star making easy millions then not lol.

What part of Australia are you from again bro? Can I hit u up for questions it looks like we are heading there next year. I know this sounds cheesy but one of my goals is to hold a Koala Bear and take a selfie with it. I think all the ladies will be like awwwwwww. LOL

I know I must sound like a total American tourist huh?

[BLASTER1]

Nah that's all good mate.
If from Wester Australia in a city named Perth.
It's funny I've lived here all my life but have never held a koala.
I have seen the though and yes they are very cuddly.
We have an island here of the Perth coastline called Rottnest about an hour's boat ride.
I would recommend going their for a day hiring a bike and ride around the island.
Beautiful secluded beaches.
It takes a cpl of hours to do the ride but afterwards their is an awesome pub were you can cool down and have a coldie right on the beach front.
They have a marsupial called a quokka which is very cute.
Rottnest is the only place in the world were they live.
Google them.
Yer hit me up for any info.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

I always wondered why he left Conte? Im thinking Conte was doing something sketchy right?

When one of these YouTubers asked ND why he left Conte he said some vague response like anybody who wants to work or not work with me is welcome to. So his answer kind of implied Conte might of left him? Odd right?

conte is not cheap, and when your paychecks get cut by more than 50% yuo start making cuts.

[hectari]

I would say this is true. I remember Jim Lampley giving Conte his own segment before the big Montiel fight and the whole thing was pretty much a commercial of how VC came clean and turned his life around.

After that big KO win over Montiel I think everyone was begging VC for his "services" even UFC fighters and non-fighter athletes.

Yeah his stable blew up after that, i remember nonito stumbled across him at the bank or grocery store thats how they met. Nonito put conte on the map again. But very strange how they fell out, its legit bad blood, someone just told me conte demanded more money

[hectari]

But this is what I dont get bro, what qualifies VC to do what he does in the first place? Like he's not a doctor or scientist right? Is he a chemist? Nutritionist? Like he didnt even go to college for any of these things right?

He just one day started making these "shakes" out of no where and they started giving athletes rave results?

He is basically like steve jobs or elon musk, they just come up with ideas and get someone else to make it. I believe conte was a sax player for a tower of power, he never went to college for this he said he just started doing his own reading and hired patrick arnold a real chemist who created the cream and the clear or whatever

Contes creation was zma supplement zinc magnesium

[IceTrayDaGang]

donaire just wasnt all that good, that's all. has nothing to do with conte or trainers or wifey, etc.

donaire is just like broner and the rest. but posters always make excuses like "if broner was serious", etc. what we see is the best of them.

[JJRod]

I don't know bro if he didnt stand up to Arscum like he did he wouldn't be getting paid big money.

Arscum was paying him like 100K for fights and then after he stood up to TR they started paying him like 750K per fight. Id rather stand up to TR and make 7 times more then not.

I dont know how anyone can defend TR they clearly pay the least and take the most from a fighters pockets.

If I remember correctly the dispute wasn't so much about money per bout, but rather the number of fights he was promised vs what he got. Top Rank contended that they couldn't deliver on that because Donaire was injured and NSAC order Donaire rest to heal from injuries.

Also I understand the boxing promoters have a bad reputation. Arum in particular, but he is right about a few things. They spend a lot of money building up fighters sometimes losing money in the process of building them up. Then when they finally recover some if the money and actually begin to make a profit, the fighter demands more money threatens to sit out his contract, or wants to sign with another promoter.
Donate did this twice. Once with Arum the other Gary Shaw.

[hectari]

If I remember correctly the dispute wasn't so much about money per bout, but rather the number of fights he was promised vs what he got. Top Rank contended that they couldn't deliver on that because Donaire was injured and NSAC order Donaire rest to heal from injuries.

Also I understand the boxing promoters have a bad reputation. Arum in particular, but he is right about a few things. They spend a lot of money building up fighters sometimes losing money in the process of building them up. Then when they finally recover some if the money and actually begin to make a profit, the fighter demands more money threatens to sit out his contract, or wants to sign with another promoter.
Donate did this twice. Once with Arum the other Gary Shaw.

It was about money, and fights. He got a million gurantee after that for each fight