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"Too Fast" Fury vs "Sonny" Liston: Who wins?
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Originally posted by earl-hickey View PostNah
Liston would be plodding forward with his slow ass feet, missing by miles because he's punching at a guy with over HALF A FOOT more reach than ali, and would be constantly out of range getting hit with jabs and right hands until he broke down and quit
Wilder ONLY lived with fury because at 6'7" with long arms, he was at least able to live with furys reach
and also, that was a 60% fury at best who was STILL FAT and had beer gut and love handles
liston had a longer reach than deontay wilder.
and also, that was a tyson fury fighting deontay wilder, a fighter who you've all called a bum and who has been fighting bums.
now that fury beats him he's a litmus test you add to a post including sonny liston and muhammad ali
your card already got pulled, kid, when you made a racist troll account with thousands of posts.
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Originally posted by _Rexy_ View PostListon’s freak body gave him the same reach as Fury. People don’t understand that Liston literally had a body made for boxing. He also had to get his gloves made special because his fists were so much bigger than everyone else too
longer reach than wilder.
bubbuuutt fury beat wilder doe
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Liston won a lot by hovering over much smaller guys ,and over powering them with a jab stalking them down. Fury would offset a lot of that. A harder fight style wise for him , he would be pressured by an actual skilled fighter but I think Fury gets a knockout late.
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Originally posted by _Rexy_ View PostListon’s freak body gave him the same reach as Fury. People don’t understand that Liston literally had a body made for boxing. He also had to get his gloves made special because his fists were so much bigger than everyone else too
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Originally posted by el*** View PostFury was dropped by cunningham and 215lbs wilder.
Wilder basically was a cruiserweight that didnt dehydrate when he fought Fury. You got jr. welters that dehydrate 20lbs from 140 to 160. Wilder was like 15lbs or so above 200 on fight night.
You think that Liston couldnt stop Fury?
Wlad didn’t stop Fury. Neither did Wilder.
Transport that Liston to present day and he wouldnt hold a title. Not 1.
Originally posted by _Rexy_ View PostListon’s freak body gave him the same reach as Fury. People don’t understand that Liston literally had a body made for boxing. He also had to get his gloves made special because his fists were so much bigger than everyone else too
Liston was good in his day...and that day was not today... he would be a cruiser and he wouldnt beat Usyk either.
Time and evolution/vast improvements in sports science and training dont give a f uck about nostalgia.Ascended likes this.
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Originally posted by miniq View PostListon takes a dive and doesn't get up
Anyone who picks liston is living in the past
6'8" 250 pound gypsy king schools that ass all night long easily.
Physically Tyson Fury is not really that strong in my opinion 'In comparison to other heavyweights of the past', in terms of power to weight ratio etc Deontay Wilder is not known for being rough and physically strong up close, but he was backing Tyson Fury up all night. So when people keep saying things like? Tyson Fury is too big, this is completely irrelevant.
Evander Holyfield would push him around, and so would Mike Tyson. There is a reason in my opinion why at elite level, Tyson Fury has not committed to fighting on the inside or even plating his feet for substantial amounts of time. It is not even about punching power, I am talking about raw bruit strength. We have not seen Tyson Fury push these guys around! When Lennox Lewis was out of condition, and fighting Vitali Kiltschko it was his bruit innate strength which brought him through that fight.Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 02-04-2019, 04:25 PM.
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A new age of giant heavyweights who were actually good arrived in the 90s. Lewis being the major factor, then on to the klits, & now the present day.
The past 30yrs the longest reigning champs have generally been 6.5ft an above, which sort of tells us something. The smaller guys just cant cut it. Looking back on past heavyweights who were much smaller pre 70s & 80's Regardless how good some of them were, I think the outcome would just mirror what we have today.
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