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  • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post


    FACT: Golovkin COULD have taken those fights, but he CHOSE not to

    rattling off the same dumb fanboy excuses will not help you any more than it helped anyone else

    how fkn ridiculous to rubbish Derevyancheno, because Jacobs had the balls to fight him but Golovkin did not LMAO

    how fkn ridiculous to rubbish Charlo, because Canelo dumped the WBC belt..... your excuses are fkn ridiculous

    I will leave it there man

    I thought you had a clue, and I thought you had some pride

    seriously..... how fkn ridiculous LMAO

    1) he made a bunch of silly excuses to avoid Sergio Mora in a showcase on HBO, preferring instead to fight a NO-HOPER in Monaco on free-TV

    Mora was an ex-champ who had clearly faded, which is the ideal opponent for a young fighter attempting to establish himself on the world-stage..... boxing has always worked that way.....

    NOT saying that Golovkin could not have beaten Mora, just that the Latin Snake is a known mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against..... and they were not willing to risk failing to put Mora away, looking bad in the process, or..... worse

    when I heard Loeffler stuttering and stammering his way through half-a-dozen silly excuses, I knew what was up..... that was ridiculous..... because insisting that someone is irrelevant, and not a draw..... only works if you fight someone relevant who IS a draw..... not an unknown NO-HOPER on free TV who is WORSE

    missing opportunities like that, and with guys like Cotto..... is why Golovkin only has 97k fans..... he needed those type of fights

    2) they did the exact same thing to Lara and Ward, who are both also known mover/spoilers who are notoriously difficult to look good against.....

    Lara would have been Golovkin's best opponent to date at that point..... and once again, insisting that someone is irrelevant, and not a draw..... only works if you fight someone relevant who IS a draw..... not guys like Willie Monroe, Wade, Brook, etc.....

    3) Ward..... they promised to fight Ward at 168..... a) they killed the fight in June 2015 by demanding a catchweight they knew would kill the fight..... b) in September 2015 they refused that fight in 36 minutes flat

    4) the superstar Cotto, should have been the ultimate goal of every fighter from 140-160..... at that point in time, Cotto was the very best option, because May/Pac were totally unrealistic and never going to happen

    Mr " anyone from 154-168 " totally refusing to negotiate on weight with the little old faded SUPERSTAR Miguel Cotto..... is the 2nd most bizarre occurrence within boxing that I have witnessed within the last decade

    I cannot believe how little was spoken about that situation, both from the media and from the fans..... totally bizarre..... every other fighter from 140-160 would have cut off one of his fingers for that fight, and yet Golovkin would not so much as lift his little finger to make that fight, totally refusing to drop a single pound to fight the 153lb superstar

    then a few months after refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto and Canelo..... Golovkin threw up his hands in frustration and claimed that he was willing and able to fight at 154 but nobody would step up..... WTF???

    those are the exact type of fights that Golovkin should have taken

    5) they specifically promised to fight Canelo at 154..... but as above, when shht got real they tucked tail and ran from that fight..... and just like above, 6 months after refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto and Canelo, Golovkin threw up his hands in frustration and claimed that he was willing and able to fight at 154, but nobody would step up.....



    6) Derevyanchenko - and Golovkin got stripped

    7) Saunders..... why the fcuk would Golovkin select a total NO-HOPER in Vanes, when Saunders was running around with his "dream"..... calling him Pvssy-Borat.,.... and offering to fight him in June???

    a unification > a mando, so Golovkin would not have been stripped for refusing to fight Derevyanchenko..... instead, Golovkin avoided TWO threats, selected an inactive JMW, and got stripped for his troubles in the process.....

    the very second that Saunders said he was available, there was no other fight to make..... Munguia, Spike, and Vanes..... should never have been mentioned

    ..... come on, that is the 3rd most bizarre situation within the sport of boxing that I have ever witnessed..... two of those situations being created by Golovkin

    8) Golovkin ducked Charlo

    if you think all of that happened by coincidence, you are a fkn dreamer

    stop licking Golovkin's sack and then expecting old school fans to applaud you for it..... MANY established journalists have said the exact same thing..... which is why you should have smartened up
    Im not on trial here my friend, you are. The fact is you can only deal with seeing claims of wrongdoing of one fighter. Im not denegrating Derevyanchenko, it just doesnt make any logical sense to say Golovkin would fear him, since he had no one on hes record of 12 fights, and as proven against Jacobs, isnt exactly a destroyer. The Canelo fight was the target, a much bigger fight. We all know that. We all know that Golovkin could have fought Ward, but then Ward couldve fought Dawson without a catch weight. We all know that Golovkin couldve fought other fighters, even maybe Billy Joe, who may or may not have pulled out last minute like he so often does, but we also know Billy took drugs for hes fight for the test against that slick style that you feel Golovkin himself avoids. It's not the rights and wrongs, some of which I agree with you about, its that you cant see the wrong in anyone else. They are all fighting the same guys Golovkin fought and so disgusted you by fighting lol. Why dont you just admit that its more personal on your part. Canelo, fails drug test, postpones GGG rematch, no problem, benefit of the doubt. Saunders gets caught drugging for hes biggest fight, benefit of the doubt. Charlo calls out Jacobs until he actually accepts, takes Dannys name out hes mouth, benefit of the doubt. Andre, instead of going for Dawsons title fights him at the lowest possible catch weight,benefit of the doubt. You're just abit blinkered, surely you can find some hate in your heart for others too? The gay slur talk doesnt help your credibility at all really, dont remember talking like that to you, uncalled for. People disagree, have different opinions , that's why were here.

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    • Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
      Im not on trial here my friend, you are. The fact is you can only deal with seeing claims of wrongdoing of one fighter. Im not denegrating Derevyanchenko, it just doesnt make any logical sense to say Golovkin would fear him, since he had no one on hes record of 12 fights, and as proven against Jacobs, isnt exactly a destroyer. The Canelo fight was the target, a much bigger fight. We all know that. We all know that Golovkin could have fought Ward, but then Ward couldve fought Dawson without a catch weight. We all know that Golovkin couldve fought other fighters, even maybe Billy Joe, who may or may not have pulled out last minute like he so often does, but we also know Billy took drugs for hes fight for the test against that slick style that you feel Golovkin himself avoids. It's not the rights and wrongs, some of which I agree with you about, its that you cant see the wrong in anyone else. They are all fighting the same guys Golovkin fought and so disgusted you by fighting lol. Why dont you just admit that its more personal on your part. Canelo, fails drug test, postpones GGG rematch, no problem, benefit of the doubt. Saunders gets caught drugging for hes biggest fight, benefit of the doubt. Charlo calls out Jacobs until he actually accepts, takes Dannys name out hes mouth, benefit of the doubt. Andre, instead of going for Dawsons title fights him at the lowest possible catch weight,benefit of the doubt. You're just abit blinkered, surely you can find some hate in your heart for others too? The gay slur talk doesnt help your credibility at all really, dont remember talking like that to you, uncalled for. People disagree, have different opinions , that's why were here.



      that is a truly ******ed excuse

      it is official, you are just another excuse-making fanboy..... like those other clowns

      kid, Derevyanchenko fought Jacobs AFTER Golovkin ducked him..... until then, nothing was "proven"..... the only thing that was "proven"..... is that Jacobs had the balls to fight Derevyanchenko, but Golovkin did not LMAO

      you clowns are running a protection squad for Lovekin

      look, if you are happy with Chickenkin being stripped for ducking his mando..... then so am I

      what a truly ******ed excuse

      grow up and have some pride

      embarrassing

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      • Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
        Im not on trial here my friend, you are. The fact is you can only deal with seeing claims of wrongdoing of one fighter. Im not denegrating Derevyanchenko, it just doesnt make any logical sense to say Golovkin would fear him, since he had no one on hes record of 12 fights, and as proven against Jacobs, isnt exactly a destroyer. The Canelo fight was the target, a much bigger fight. We all know that. We all know that Golovkin could have fought Ward, but then Ward couldve fought Dawson without a catch weight. We all know that Golovkin couldve fought other fighters, even maybe Billy Joe, who may or may not have pulled out last minute like he so often does, but we also know Billy took drugs for hes fight for the test against that slick style that you feel Golovkin himself avoids. It's not the rights and wrongs, some of which I agree with you about, its that you cant see the wrong in anyone else. They are all fighting the same guys Golovkin fought and so disgusted you by fighting lol. Why dont you just admit that its more personal on your part. Canelo, fails drug test, postpones GGG rematch, no problem, benefit of the doubt. Saunders gets caught drugging for hes biggest fight, benefit of the doubt. Charlo calls out Jacobs until he actually accepts, takes Dannys name out hes mouth, benefit of the doubt. Andre, instead of going for Dawsons title fights him at the lowest possible catch weight,benefit of the doubt. You're just abit blinkered, surely you can find some hate in your heart for others too? The gay slur talk doesnt help your credibility at all really, dont remember talking like that to you, uncalled for. People disagree, have different opinions , that's why were here.


        in fact, lets call a spade a spade..... what a fkn idiot lol

        lets keep it real here..... there is no possible justification for Golovkin ducking Derevyanchenko

        1) the fact that fans now find it acceptable to use money as an excuse to avoid your mando..... is fkn hilarious

        when did that happen ? LMAO

        2) FACT: if Golovkin was confident of beating Derevyanchenko, he would have fought him rather than be stripped of his "dream"

        3) refusing to fight Charlo..... despite the fact that win would GUARANTEE Golovkin another Canelo payday..... and insisting that fight "does not make sense"..... is even more bizarre than ducking Derevyanchenko

        they used money as justification to avoid Derevyanchenko..... and yet that same money, is not sufficient justification to fight Charlo

        and don't brush that off......

        money IS important enough to duck one threat..... and yet that same money is NOT important enough justification for Golovkin to fight another threat

        come on man

        the common denominator..... ?

        Derevyanchenko and Charlo are a threat

        conclusion:

        Golovkin aint about that life, and he never was

        which is why he did not jump on Saunders..... which is why they made ridiculous excuses to kill any talk about fights with Lara/Mora..... which is why Mr "anyone from 154-168" was happy to defend against Rosado at catchweight, but totally unwilling to negotiate on weight with the little old faded 153lb SUPERSTAR Cotto

        sooooo many excuses to NOT fight lol

        Golovkin was a protected network darling who tip-toed through the tulips..... sooooo obvious

        don't know how anyone could support that

        and don't try that " hater " Bullshlt

        hate is worthless and can easily be discredited

        everything I said is true, it happened..... you even admitted yourself that Golovkin COULD have taken much more demanding fights, but he CHOSE not to..... so you are either unaware of the extent of their cherry-picking, or you fully intend to ignore it

        oh, right..... you fully intend to ignore it LMAO

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        • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
          in fact, lets call a spade a spade..... what a fkn idiot lol

          lets keep it real here..... there is no possible justification for Golovkin ducking Derevyanchenko

          1) the fact that fans now find it acceptable to use money as an excuse to avoid your mando..... is fkn hilarious

          when did that happen ? LMAO

          2) FACT: if Golovkin was confident of beating Derevyanchenko, he would have fought him rather than be stripped of his "dream"

          3) refusing to fight Charlo..... despite the fact that win would GUARANTEE Golovkin another Canelo payday..... and insisting that fight "does not make sense"..... is even more bizarre than ducking Derevyanchenko

          they used money as justification to avoid Derevyanchenko..... and yet that same money, is not sufficient justification to fight Charlo

          and don't brush that off......

          money IS important enough to duck one threat..... and yet that same money is NOT important enough justification for Golovkin to fight another threat

          come on man

          the common denominator..... ?

          Derevyanchenko and Charlo are a threat

          conclusion:

          Golovkin aint about that life, and he never was

          which is why he did not jump on Saunders..... which is why they made ridiculous excuses to kill any talk about fights with Lara/Mora..... which is why Mr "anyone from 154-168" was happy to defend against Rosado at catchweight, but totally unwilling to negotiate on weight with the little old faded 153lb SUPERSTAR Cotto

          sooooo many excuses to NOT fight lol

          Golovkin was a protected network darling who tip-toed through the tulips..... sooooo obvious

          don't know how anyone could support that

          and don't try that " hater " Bullshlt

          hate is worthless and can easily be discredited

          everything I said is true, it happened..... you even admitted yourself that Golovkin COULD have taken much more demanding fights, but he CHOSE not to..... so you are either unaware of the extent of their cherry-picking, or you fully intend to ignore it

          oh, right..... you fully intend to ignore it LMAO
          But the point im making is the one you're proving with every post. For probably the 100th time im acknowledging that Golovkin couldve taken other good fights, the point is hes all you can talk about! Although we have Saunders pulling out again and again and taking drugs for hes biggest fight, Charlo going on the run from Jacobs after calling him out, both fighting hes retreads, Canelo failing a drug test and fighting guys like Fielding in hes next fight youve got nothing to say.How about Canelo's dream fight hes pushing for? Is it Andrade or Charlo? No, its Floyd, old little retired Floyd. Calling me names from the safety of a screen doesnt change anything. You're totally blinkered. Vanes wouldnt have happened if Canelo hadn't failed a test. Derevyanchenko wasnt going to happen with Canelo 2 in the works.Charlo actually respects Golovkin, and says it, but hes still only fought nobody's at Middleweight, in fact he's best name is Trout, and hes still fighting Monroe next. Saunders still hasnt fought a decent boxer and took drugs for hes one true test.Hes still the guy who was nearly beaten by a nobody, went close with Lee and Eubank jnr, who aren't world beaters, and hes best win is Lemiuex. Billy is still the guy who said Golovkin beats him and Eubank on the same night. You haven't addressed anything else because your fixated on Golovkin. Jacobs, the guy Golovkin beat, calls out all of your heros, they avoid him. All you can hear is the name Golovkin. He lives in your head man 😂

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          • Talk sense odd bollock floyd is the wrong side of 40 while canelo is on top of the food chain while money mongafloyd is fighting tong po in a 3 rd exhibition he needs to quit the ******** cos he will lose all he had for been ******

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            • Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
              But the point im making is the one you're proving with every post. For probably the 100th time im acknowledging that Golovkin couldve taken other good fights, the point is hes all you can talk about! Although we have Saunders pulling out again and again and taking drugs for hes biggest fight, Charlo going on the run from Jacobs after calling him out, both fighting hes retreads, Canelo failing a drug test and fighting guys like Fielding in hes next fight youve got nothing to say.How about Canelo's dream fight hes pushing for? Is it Andrade or Charlo? No, its Floyd, old little retired Floyd. Calling me names from the safety of a screen doesnt change anything. You're totally blinkered. Vanes wouldnt have happened if Canelo hadn't failed a test. Derevyanchenko wasnt going to happen with Canelo 2 in the works.Charlo actually respects Golovkin, and says it, but hes still only fought nobody's at Middleweight, in fact he's best name is Trout, and hes still fighting Monroe next. Saunders still hasnt fought a decent boxer and took drugs for hes one true test.Hes still the guy who was nearly beaten by a nobody, went close with Lee and Eubank jnr, who aren't world beaters, and hes best win is Lemiuex. Billy is still the guy who said Golovkin beats him and Eubank on the same night. You haven't addressed anything else because your fixated on Golovkin. Jacobs, the guy Golovkin beat, calls out all of your heros, they avoid him. All you can hear is the name Golovkin. He lives in your head man 😂




              then stop making silly excuses to justify why he ducked Derevyanchenko and Saunders

              when another fighter has a list of EIGHT fights that he could have made, but CHOSE not to..... I will turn my attention to them

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              • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                then stop making silly excuses to justify why he ducked Derevyanchenko and Saunders

                when another fighter has a list of EIGHT fights that he could have ma(de, but CHOSE not to..... I will turn my attention to them
                Again its all Golovkin man. I think taking drugs to face your hardest fight is even worse than not fighting your mandatory.Imagine, you pull out of three fights with Murray, and then you get a real test and start taking drugs. I think only fighting retreads is bad. I think running from Jacobs is bad, after calling him out. I think fighting Fielding, who is domestic level, and calling out old Floyd is bad. But you just hear Golovkin Golovkin Golovkin..

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                • Originally posted by G G G View Post
                  Cause you fought him when he was almost 19 and drained him to 152 lmfao. All your wins have asterisks next to them. The biggest fraud in boxing history. KOd by Amber Dixon.
                  First of Canelo was not 19. He was 23.

                  Secondly, Floyd didn’t drained Canelo to 152. Canelo called out Floyd at 152.

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                  • Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
                    Again its all Golovkin man. I think taking drugs to face your hardest fight is even worse than not fighting your mandatory.Imagine, you pull out of three fights with Murray, and then you get a real test and start taking drugs. I think only fighting retreads is bad. I think running from Jacobs is bad, after calling him out. I think fighting Fielding, who is domestic level, and calling out old Floyd is bad. But you just hear Golovkin Golovkin Golovkin..


                    when another fighter has a list of EIGHT fights that he could have made, but CHOSE not to.... you be sure to let me know

                    the excuses Golovkin gave to avoid those fights were ABSURD !!

                    those excuses were made by a guy who wants a big drama show, but does not want any actual drama

                    Canelo fought the best JMW, against the wishes of his promoter..... Canelo fought a supposed killer TWICE, in his first real fights at 160..... Golovkin has never done anything like that, just the opposite..... he avoided those challenges like the plague

                    there is nothing even similar about their career paths

                    again, the excuses Golovkin gave to avoid those fights were ABSURD !!

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                    • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                      when another fighter has a list of EIGHT fights that he could have made, but CHOSE not to.... you be sure to let me know

                      the excuses Golovkin gave to avoid those fights were ABSURD !!

                      those excuses were made by a guy who wants a big drama show, but does not want any actual drama

                      Canelo fought the best JMW, against the wishes of his promoter..... Canelo fought a supposed killer TWICE, in his first real fights at 160..... Golovkin has never done anything like that, just the opposite..... he avoided those challenges like the plague

                      there is nothing even similar about their career paths

                      again, the excuses Golovkin gave to avoid those fights were ABSURD !!
                      Yeah but we've talked about Golovkin and i agree with you about alot of things. But you still like Saunders who cheated to fight Andrade. You still like Charlo who ran from Jacobs. You still like Canelo who will fight guys like Fielding at 168,but makes Chavez make 164.You have opinions on things other than Golovkin im sure. Im pretty sure he fought hes killer twice too, a much younger man, who is the superstar of boxing, at an age where most fighters are done. The majority of people thought he'd won the first fight and the second was as hard as hell. Its just your caught up in the subject so much you cant see the rest of the division. He's at the end of hes career now, let him go...
                      Last edited by Mindgames; 12-17-2018, 03:49 AM.

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