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  • Eff Pandas
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    #11
    Originally posted by _Rexy_
    Could be a pretty good, down to earth interview. Fury’s interview on there surprised a lot of people. I’m willing to give it a chance.
    Yea Rogan is solid at getting good stories out of people & shutting down a lot of the bs no one cares about.

    Schaub has had a few really good interviews with Deontay & Schaub is nothing if not a Rogan disciple.

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      #12
      Originally posted by BillyBoxing
      Wilder's interviews tend to embarrass me bro. Not so hyped even if I like jre show.
      I'll cop to the BOMB ZQUAD thing being a lil much for me & just being annoying as f#ck, but I like when guys talk real about their life & what motivates them. And Wilder gots a really good story ultimately with getting into boxing to help care for his daughters disorder. Thats a beautiful thing & an amazing sacrifice he did that should tell people more about Deontay Wilder than 99% of the random sh^t he's said & done.

      Side point: what's your pick on a fury Vs wilder rematch? And AJ Vs wilder?
      I had Fury this time & I think Fury deserved the nod. I think in the 2nd fight he widens the gap by learning some sh^t this time around + with more distance between his horrible shape & his newfound focus.

      I still say Joshua vs Wilder is 50/50ish, but I lean Joshua's way. The trouble with Wilder with anyone imo is he fights like some awkward school yard bully, he's the hardest puncher in the game that can end the fight on a seconds notice + takes risks most others won't/don't. He's a live dog vs anyone at any level.

      Unlike most people, I think AJ stops Wilder, Wilder too hittable bro, AJ is a straight powerhouse too and has a better defense, it's a puncher fight but I think AJ nails him first.
      I definitely think it'll be a KO whoever wins that one. Or the money should be on it anyway. And idk that I'd mention Joshua's defense cuz while his defense is better than Wilder's idk that thats saying all that much. Joshua is pretty f#cking hittable to & if Wilder hits you he can KO you. I think Joshua's chin is softer too & I don't think he's got the same type of power as Wilder. It should be close & fun doe & ultimately thats all I'm in it for.

      Wilder Vs Fury will be all over again wilder ko or a Fury decision if he escape from a ko. Fury too ****y, and probably getting brain damages for 6 months so I dunno, the less damaged from this weekend will win the rematch. Wilder got his ego sh'tted on lol
      Idk about this. I think everyone was right about this fight being too soon for Fury. I think if he gets another 4-6 months to prepare he's gonna be up another level or 3 by the rematch. And he won't tire out or lose focus in the fight this next time. I think its a far cleaner decision win or maybe he'll get that late stoppage of Wilder I was lowkey thinking could happen the 1st time around.

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        #13
        Originally posted by makaveli1875
        I like it when he lets go , you just never know what pish he's going to slaver next . That , his mask and feather boa . He adds a bit of colour to the HW division. Him and Tyson are a godsend compared to AJ's scripted lines Eddie feeds him every morning .
        Yeah he's more interesting than AJ but i still think he chats a lot of $h!t. All that rubbish about meditation and multiple personalities etc, and he seems to talk in cliches and rhymes all the time, it gets annoying.

        Rogan is OK, but he talks too much for me, and cuts his guests off.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          What don't you like about Rogan lol.

          To me Rogan is the mfing modern day Johnny Carson with putting people over now. Guys get more bumps after being on JRE than any show on TV these days I bet.
          He gets good guests, sure, but Joe Rogan himself is a brown-nosing chameleon. As an example, we all saw how he was with Fury, seemingly totally on board and listening, but now watch this clip of his interview with Tom Papa.

          Papa jokes, of Fury, around the 2:23 mark, 'He was doing it for the mental health kids', Rogan replies with a smirk, 'Yeah, he was doing it for the mental health people...' ...Rogan then realises he shouldn't be making a joke about this kinda stuff and starts laying on the praise for Fury, amazing journey blah blah, what a story, blah blah blah... what pisses me off is that Rogan will say WHATEVER he thinks people want to hear. Zero integrity. It would not surprise me if Rogan tells Wilder that he has watched the fight back and scored it as a draw, or even a win... when talking with Papa, Rogan said this: "I don't have a firm opinion on whether or not the draw was justified 'cause I only watched it once, I thought that Tyson Fury won most of the rounds except the two that he got knocked down in..."

          THAT is exactly my problem with Rogan, he doesn't have a firm opinion on anything, and will agree with pretty much anything that is put to him. He's in the business of being uncontroversial, a f#cking softshoe, and it becomes very irritating to watch him pander to his guests so much



          Tom Papa quickly apologised:

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            #15
            Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody
            He gets good guests, sure, but Joe Rogan himself is a brown-nosing chameleon. As an example, we all saw how he was with Fury, seemingly totally on board and listening, but now watch this clip of his interview with Tom Papa.

            Papa jokes, of Fury, around the 2:23 mark, 'He was doing it for the mental health kids', Rogan replies with a smirk, 'Yeah, he was doing it for the mental health people...' ...Rogan then realises he shouldn't be making a joke about this kinda stuff and starts laying on the praise for Fury, amazing journey blah blah, what a story, blah blah blah... what pisses me off is that Rogan will say WHATEVER he thinks people want to hear. Zero integrity. It would not surprise me if Rogan tells Wilder that he has watched the fight back and scored it as a draw, or even a win... when talking with Papa, Rogan said this: "I don't have a firm opinion on whether or not the draw was justified 'cause I only watched it once, I thought that Tyson Fury won most of the rounds except the two that he got knocked down in..."

            THAT is exactly my problem with Rogan, he doesn't have a firm opinion on anything, and will agree with pretty much anything that is put to him. He's in the business of being uncontroversial, a f#cking softshoe, and it becomes very irritating to watch him pander to his guests so much



            Tom Papa quickly apologised:

            Idk about all that. Rogan has many strong opinions. Idk if judging a fight is THAT strong of a subject in the first place. I myself felt Fury won the fight, but haven't done an official rbr to give a hard scorecard yet myself. Idk that I'd say my opinion isn't that strong yet so much as I haven't taken the time to form a stronger opinion or have a stronger stance yet.

            But yea I mean when you got a guest on you can't be combative the whole show or most of it either. I've been watching Rogan since they were in the early double digits episodes & he used to be more combative & those shows ****** (like Tha Boxing Voice wigth all their old lady arguing bs) cuz they had too much back n forth bs about nothing. And he used to step on other people's words too much. He's toned it down & learned to be a better talk show-ish-like mfer over the years.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              Idk about all that. Rogan has many strong opinions. Idk if judging a fight is THAT strong of a subject in the first place. I myself felt Fury won the fight, but haven't done an official rbr to give a hard scorecard yet myself. Idk that I'd say my opinion isn't that strong yet so much as I haven't taken the time to form a stronger opinion or have a stronger stance yet.

              But yea I mean when you got a guest on you can't be combative the whole show or most of it either. I've been watching Rogan since they were in the early double digits episodes & he used to be more combative & those shows ****** (like Tha Boxing Voice wigth all their old lady arguing bs) cuz they had too much back n forth bs about nothing. And he used to step on other people's words too much. He's toned it down & learned to be a better talk show-ish-like mfer over the years.
              Yeah I agree that he's gotten better over time at being a talk-show host, but that's just it, if that's all he's about, Rogan shouldn't be out there pretending to agree with everyone, it just makes him looks like an idiot. Rogan just talks pure sh#t, I can't take him seriously on anything

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                #17
                Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody
                Yeah I agree that he's gotten better over time at being a talk-show host, but that's just it, if that's all he's about, Rogan shouldn't be out there pretending to agree with everyone, it just makes him looks like an idiot. Rogan just talks pure sh#t, I can't take him seriously on anything
                I'm not seeing what you are saying with all the stuff you said before. Care to give another example?

                Plus I think your bound to cross wires on some subjects when you are doing 200 shows a year. And mostly I hear Rogan's strong stances being repeated over & over more than I'm hearing him painting over his strong opinions.

                And I'm sure he's got a lot of light opinions on sh^t like we all do & he'll often say that too matter of fact cuz I think all of us give no f#cks on about 90% of the sh^t we talk about. So does it even matter if he don't give a f#ck about x & then two episodes later paints over his previous opinion on x does that realllllly matter to anyone in the effort of keeping it moving with your business? I'd suggest it probably doesn't.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                  I'll cop to the BOMB ZQUAD thing being a lil much for me & just being annoying as f#ck, but I like when guys talk real about their life & what motivates them. And Wilder gots a really good story ultimately with getting into boxing to help care for his daughters disorder. Thats a beautiful thing & an amazing sacrifice he did that should tell people more about Deontay Wilder than 99% of the random sh^t he's said & done.



                  I had Fury this time & I think Fury deserved the nod. I think in the 2nd fight he widens the gap by learning some sh^t this time around + with more distance between his horrible shape & his newfound focus.

                  I still say Joshua vs Wilder is 50/50ish, but I lean Joshua's way. The trouble with Wilder with anyone imo is he fights like some awkward school yard bully, he's the hardest puncher in the game that can end the fight on a seconds notice + takes risks most others won't/don't. He's a live dog vs anyone at any level.



                  I definitely think it'll be a KO whoever wins that one. Or the money should be on it anyway. And idk that I'd mention Joshua's defense cuz while his defense is better than Wilder's idk that thats saying all that much. Joshua is pretty f#cking hittable to & if Wilder hits you he can KO you. I think Joshua's chin is softer too & I don't think he's got the same type of power as Wilder. It should be close & fun doe & ultimately thats all I'm in it for.



                  Idk about this. I think everyone was right about this fight being too soon for Fury. I think if he gets another 4-6 months to prepare he's gonna be up another level or 3 by the rematch. And he won't tire out or lose focus in the fight this next time. I think its a far cleaner decision win or maybe he'll get that late stoppage of Wilder I was lowkey thinking could happen the 1st time around.
                  For Fury Vs Wilder I think Fury with a 245 lbs klit fight shape instead of that 256 belly lard belt shape ,he would have schooled DW clean just like he did klit.

                  Those 12 lbs of lard make him less mobile and tire a bit more.

                  Wilder just capitalized on Fury tiring late round, he didn't adjust one thing in his game.

                  Sure it was too early because he was 0,1 second away from losing by ko. They took a lot of risks.

                  I think Josh will bully wilder counter his swings with straight hard shots. At least AJ has a guard.

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                    #19
                    If anything the Breakfast Club and JRE should have Tyson back on. Why bring on the loser who's just making excuses?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                      Yea Rogan is solid at getting good stories out of people & shutting down a lot of the bs no one cares about.

                      Schaub has had a few really good interviews with Deontay & Schaub is nothing if not a Rogan disciple.
                      Schaub is a moron and incredibly biased, he was sucking up to Wilder and not challenging him at all. Rogan is a bit of a snake and changes his opinion where it suits him i.e. he was suggesting Rousey could beat Floyd and after her defeat he made out like she was overrated. He did a similar thing with McGregor then after Khabib whooped his ass he was trying to make out like it was inevitable.

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