Is Deontay Wilder an embarrassment to the HW division?

[koolkc107]

Did Marciano rely on one shot and one shot only?

He was even less skilled then than Wilder is now.

[koolkc107]

What's Marciano got to do with anything ?.

Even though they are much different physically, they win in very much the same way.

Not the most skill, but decent chin, great conditioning, and a murderous punch.

Both men can lose large portions of a fight, yet still be close on the cards because of KDs.

Both men can end a fight they are losing spectacularly, and often did/have.

[koolkc107]

Marciano was fighting to earn every W in his matches. his 49-0 is a damn record..compared to wilders bum strike. and in no way Rocky was one dimensional fighter like HW champ Wilder is when he faces legit opposition.

Marciano took severe azz whippings for large portions of his fights, got hit more and worse than anything Wilder has ever done. Dude got dropped by old geezers.

It's a testimony to his chin and his power that he got up and was able to win those fights he was getting housed in, but let's not act like he was this technical wizard. He wasn't.

[Joe Beamish]

Marciano always took the fight to his opponent. He didn’t stand around waiting for a gift chin for Christmas.

That’s because he had more skills.

[Ogecca MaMa]

Marciano took severe azz whippings for large portions of his fights, got hit more and worse than anything Wilder has ever done. Dude got dropped by old geezers.

It's a testimony to his chin and his power that he got up and was able to win those fights he was getting housed in, but let's not act like he was this technical wizard. He wasn't.

exactly. he was going for a W, struggling, earning his legacy. so far Deonaty fought who? Fury and Ortiz? 2 legit opponents, and Ortiz being close to 40 y.o or so. Wilder is good, but let him first fight someone. or else he might have 70-0 and he wont be remembered as Rocky.

[koolkc107]

exactly. he was going for a W, struggling, earning his legacy. so far Deonaty fought who? Fury and Ortiz? 2 legit opponents, and Ortiz being close to 40 y.o or so. Wilder is good, but let him first fight someone. or else he might have 70-0 and he wont be remembered as Rocky.

The problem is, I am not sure AJ fights Ortiz and Fury and comes thru it without a loss.

And I think those two on Wilder's resume trump any two on AJ's.

That's why they are folks starting to call AJ the 3rd or 4th best heavyweight.

Others are going out and testing themselves against the best.

Ortiz is still highly regarded (and avoided) despite the loss, for example.

[Lion81]

The casuals have spoken. He's not special, and against Fury it was confirmed.

He loses to Fury in the rematch and he loses to Joshua.

He'll be forgotten as he's not much to remember. Above average fighter, only because of his power.

[McNulty]

I’m reading a lot of posters on here saying the above, what are your thoughts?

Wilder is not only an embarassment to the Heavyweight division, but also an embarrassment to boxing, America, the English language, as well as the human race.

[thecomedian2]

He's one of the five total good heavyweights we have so........... No?

Sad but True..