Memo To Deontay Wilder

[Curt Henning]

How can you be so impressed by Wilder when you picked him via decapitation/easy victory and he lost? That sounds like a fanboy trying to save face/in total denial and trying to convince yourself and others that he's a great fighter. The polls are ALL in the high 80% in that Fury won and they include biased Wilder fanboys. Even the most biased fanboys like you are trying to look partial and say it was a fair "draw" which you don't believe at all.

The "injury" is hilarious. It's Fury that should have excuses. He took the fight too soon, most his camp was dedicated to shedding weight and he was rusty as hell. He was severely handicapped in this fight yet took Wilder to school.

Fury deserves whoever he wants next because he's the only fighter who took a risk coming to America which has became the home of the worst robberies in boxing at about 50% in his comeback trail. I'd be disappointed if Wilder-Joshua worked their differences out and signed to fight which leaves Fury with nothing. I understand the logic though because Wilder knows he lost and would lose again and Joshua will see him as a far more difficult fight being that he's much better than Wilder based on the schooling he gave him at about 50%.

idiot and contradictory logic

if fury was indeed at 50 percent and needing this camp to get in shape then Aj/wilder next makes sense...those two can sort themselves out and fury can take a stay busy fight while getting in better shape and closer to 100 percent...and he gets the winner

[Curt Henning]

The majority of polls and media sided with Kovalev, Golovkin and Fury. The polls probably wider with the Fury fight than any it seems though.

you can come up with a ton of people that had canelo winning the first and 2nd fights...lol

"the headbuts...the lowblows..the american ref"!!!!!

people in polls and most of the media have the luxury of watching from television sets or small tv monitors....people in polls also get to watch with commentary.....judges dont have those luxuries and see a different fight from their individual perspective...one judge might catch certain angles where another may be blocked by someones back....its just part of the game...thats why there are 3 of them

[chrisJS]

idiot and contradictory logic

if fury was indeed at 50 percent and needing this camp to get in shape then Aj/wilder next makes sense...those two can sort themselves out and fury can take a stay busy fight while getting in better shape and closer to 100 percent...and he gets the winner

I think he got 12 rounds in and will have another camp so he'll be closer to 100%.

I think the longer Wilder waits (for Fury) the worse for him because he won't improve and Fury can only get better. Joshua is still improving so for him it sort of evens out though I think barring another Fury meltdown or bogus decision he'd beat Joshua too.

I think Fury has earned the right to get the next fight he wants and fight both men and make the most money but as a consolation prize his chances increase (even) further with another tune-up or two and in better shape.

Fury is in a great spot and good for him.

[Bashhh]

PS.

Lou thinks Fury won.

https://twitter.com/1_royle/status/1069205867151659009

[Curt Henning]

andre ward takes two years off for an injury and dispute with promoter and hes an "idiot whos wasted 2 years of his career...he could have been doing something with himself instead he chose to sit on the sidelines".....he comes back and moves up and takes on a fellow unbeaten top 5 p4p guy and beats him twice....but hes a loser who needs an american ref and he wasted his career

fury comes back after two years of drug and alcohol abuse and beats a bum killing, no skill having, windmilling POS and hes hero....hmmmmm...wonder if theres anything at play here?!?!

[chrisJS]

andre ward takes two years off for an injury and dispute with promoter and hes an "idiot whos wasted 2 years of his career...he could have been doing something with himself instead he chose to sit on the sidelines".....he comes back and moves up and takes on a fellow unbeaten top 5 p4p guy and beats him twice....but hes a loser who needs an american ref and he wasted his career

fury comes back after two years of drug and alcohol abuse and beats a bum killing, no skill having, windmilling POS and hes hero....hmmmmm...wonder if theres anything at play here?!?!

I've never suffered from depression but it's a real illness so I think that's where people have respect and sympathy for him.

Ward just tried to sue a promoter who did well for him and took on Kovalev a lot further into his comeback which was hardly as daunting as Fury's (losing the weight, the mental health issues etc.

Some consider Wilder a bum (I think he's a bum with a good right) but some considered him unbeatable and by far the best at heavyweight. Ward also was very lucky to get the decision (I was at the fight and next to nobody felt he won, the polls and media also reflect that) whereas Fury clearly beat Wilder.

[Curt Henning]

I've never suffered from depression but it's a real illness so I think that's where people have respect and sympathy for him.

Ward just tried to sue a promoter who did well for him and took on Kovalev a lot further into his comeback which was hardly as daunting as Fury's (losing the weight, the mental health issues etc.

Some consider Wilder a bum (I think he's a bum with a good right) but some considered him unbeatable and by far the best at heavyweight. Ward also was very lucky to get the decision (I was at the fight and next to nobody felt he won, the polls and media also reflect that) whereas Fury clearly beat Wilder.

alot further into this comeback? lol...ward fought smith, barrera and brand....and brand was about pianetta level...so was smith lol

ward had 1 legit tuneup and fought kovalev...who was thought to be light years ahead of wilder in skill ....and yet just as devestating of a puncher..lol...youre off your rocker

define well for him? i mean by some peoples accounts bob arum was doing well for floyd...but we know how that turned out......ward sued the man for a reason....there was a disconnect somewhere...so much ward decided not to fight to spite him...and ward aint the type to just sit for fun...hes got several children to feed

fury clearly beat wilder? lol...strange...but i guess they favor wilder cause hes the money man right? we heard that one too....ward cant sell nobody knows ward...but when he won it was because hes the hometown boy even though he brings no fans or money to vegas ...same with wilder...he cant sell...hes unknown...yet somehow the town of LA belongs to him! lol

youre so biased the other way its ridiculous...but somehow i bet you think you are fair lol...its ok...everyone has biases....just some of us arent naive enough to deny

[chrisJS]

alot further into this comeback? lol...ward fought smith, barrera and brand....and brand was about pianetta level...so was smith lol

ward had 1 legit tuneup and fought kovalev...who was thought to be light years ahead of wilder in skill ....and yet just as devestating of a puncher..lol...youre off your rocker

define well for him? i mean by some peoples accounts bob arum was doing well for floyd...but we know how that turned out......ward sued the man for a reason....there was a disconnect somewhere...so much ward decided not to fight to spite him...and ward aint the type to just sit for fun...hes got several children to feed

fury clearly beat wilder? lol...strange...but i guess they favor wilder cause hes the money man right? we heard that one too....ward cant sell nobody knows ward...but when he won it was because hes the hometown boy even though he brings no fans or money to vegas ...same with wilder...he cant sell...hes unknown...yet somehow the town of LA belongs to him! lol

youre so biased the other way its ridiculous...but somehow i bet you think you are fair lol...its ok...everyone has biases....just some of us arent naive enough to deny

Ward had been back 18 months and stayed in training the whole time. Barrera at least was a good fighter whereas Fury had been in training around 6 months with no real fights. He also came down from more than 400lbs and in a worse place mentally and physically. His comeback was far more difficult there's no way around it.

The home fighter/American fighter will nearly always get the benefit of the doubt. Kovalev draws even less than Ward and an outside fighter is unlikely to get a fair shake on a Haymon card you know this. Usually most fights go the way the more connected promoter wants it to go.

Goosen did well for Ward getting him home field all the way through the Super Six and then good paid HBO fights. Roc Nation overpaid him hence the PPV's and gates tanked with Kovalev and then he retired.

[Curt Henning]

Ward had been back 18 months and stayed in training the whole time. Barrera at least was a good fighter whereas Fury had been in training around 6 months with no real fights. He also came down from more than 400lbs and in a worse place mentally and physically. His comeback was far more difficult there's no way around it.

The home fighter/American fighter will nearly always get the benefit of the doubt. Kovalev draws even less than Ward and an outside fighter is unlikely to get a fair shake on a Haymon card you know this. Usually most fights go the way the more connected promoter wants it to go.

Goosen did well for Ward getting him home field all the way through the Super Six and then good paid HBO fights. Roc Nation overpaid him hence the PPV's and gates tanked with Kovalev and then he retired.

lolol...sad man...just sad....a guy like ward with the family to feed aint sittin out nearly 2 years if his promoter is doing well by him...there was an obvious disconnect...theres a difference between us thinking a promoter is doing well by someone and how the fighter feels....two different perspectives and stories...like i said....most felt arum did well by floyd...but floyd didnt...and he was right in the end

and i thought the fans were there to see fury? i thought the crowd was pro fury....and were booing wilder? kovalev beating ward would have been better for boxing......as hes much more exciting and fan friendly

you can give me furys sob story..its a good story...and im impressed....but thats not wards fault the guy balooned and did what he did.....ward was not much further along...he had one decent scrap....and kovalev was considered a much better fighter than wilder.....who is a one trick pony that only beats bums and 50 year olds who gas

kovalev was a much tougher fight than wilder

[Curt Henning]

I've never suffered from depression but it's a real illness so I think that's where people have respect and sympathy for him.

Ward just tried to sue a promoter who did well for him and took on Kovalev a lot further into his comeback which was hardly as daunting as Fury's (losing the weight, the mental health issues etc.

Some consider Wilder a bum (I think he's a bum with a good right) but some considered him unbeatable and by far the best at heavyweight. Ward also was very lucky to get the decision (I was at the fight and next to nobody felt he won, the polls and media also reflect that) whereas Fury clearly beat Wilder.

pac says he was hurt after floyd "we believe him"

loma says he was hurt after struggling with, and being knocked down by, linares..."we believe him"

wilder says he got hurt early in camp and may not have been 100 percent "no way hes lying...he needs an excuse"

LOL