Comments Thread For: Fury on Joshua: They Are Just Borrowed Belts, They Are Still Mine

[Jax teller]

Well the fact of the matter remains, Ortiz almost beat Wilder(the true supposed boogieman whom I been saying had many weaknesses fury can capitalize on) who AJ swerved & hes been calling AJ out for ages too,so if AJ faces someone less dangerous than Ortiz( despite the fact that beating him will basically prove hes better than Wilder) then I'll still rate Ortiz above AJ despite me agreeing 100% that AJ will win,(Thats just how I roll I value fighters who take big risks above those who don't)AJ has only faced Klitscho that was truly elite,the rest were big underdogs,I do think AJ on his day might beat Wilder/Fury etc.but hes too happy beating hearns lapdogs.

Who the f#uck has Ortiz fought? Crap amateur and professional records

Who the f#uck has Wilder fought? Fury just schooled him with his first real fight in 3 years and Ortiz shown he isn't a murder looking poor against multiple C grade fighters.

Whyte, Parker, Klitschko, Povetkin have all backed up their level way more and AJ beat them all.

[*Makaveli*]

You Wilder guyz never cease to amaze me. Just cannot for the life of you admit Fury was the better man vs Wilder. Embarrassed him for the vast majority of the fight. Now you won't even acknowledge he's had mental health issues. Wow... talk about a cultist... you're definitely that all over.

I can admit Fury was the better man for a couple of prolonged spells but the 2 biggest moments of the fight were Fury crashing to the canvas .
Fury was KO'd and by some miracle rose from the dead . The reason he got up was to give us a rematch
Its probably 1 of the most spectacular moments boxing has ever seen . We want to see more of it

[Jax teller]

Fury has the two best wins in the division and is the man who beat the man and scored a nice win this weekend despite ring rust and all kind of problems but you can’t go away for three years and keep your belts.

Had he stayed in the game and encountered fair officials he’d have all four belts now IMO.

Or lost the rematch with Wlad.

Him and AJ need to fight only way either one can claim to be the real best.

[_Rexy_]

Who the f#uck has Ortiz fought? Crap amateur and professional records

Who the f#uck has Wilder fought? Fury just schooled him with his first real fight in 3 years and Ortiz shown he isn't a murder looking poor against multiple C grade fighters.

Whyte, Parker, Klitschko, Povetkin have all backed up their level way more and AJ beat them all.

You keep saying “WHO HAVE THEY FOUGHT!!” And then you bring up Whyte, Parker and Povetkin, who’s only big fights are all losses. By your logic, Tomas Mrazek is a top heavyweight because he’s got so many top names on his resume.

[SeGoodland]

This is just getting silly now.

Facts this and facts that. You can't say that Fury is the #1 HW based on the 'facts'. The facts are, he just drew with Wilder who is the ranked #2 and WBC Champion (albeit despite Fury being robbed of the W).

The 'facts' are that Joshua is the ranked #1 fighter across all of the remaining boxing bodies and ranking systems (other than WBC).

Fury's comeback is a miracle and if he beats Joshua, then yes, he will be the #1. All credit to him for coming back from the brink of suicide and battling mental health problems but lets not forget, he was banned (albeit backdated which doesn't mean anything really) for 2 years for PED abuse.

When he did comeback, his tune up fights with Seferi and Pianeta where parallel to Joshua fighting Povetkin and Parker so lets not get carried away with Fury being #1.

The FACTS are that Joshua is ranked #1. Fury has the potential to become #1 if he beats Joshua. Everything else around being #1 is just noise.

[P4Pdunny]

Well the fact of the matter remains, Ortiz almost beat Wilder(the true supposed boogieman whom I been saying had many weaknesses fury can capitalize on) who AJ swerved & hes been calling AJ out for ages too,so if AJ faces someone less dangerous than Ortiz( despite the fact that beating him will basically prove hes better than Wilder) then I'll still rate Ortiz above AJ despite me agreeing 100% that AJ will win,(Thats just how I roll I value fighters who take big risks above those who don't)

AJ has only faced Klitscho that was truly elite,the rest were big underdogs,I do think AJ on his day might beat Wilder/Fury etc.but hes too happy beating hearns lapdogs 4 big money

Parker's a decent fighter. Breazeale is also durable and tough but I'd rank Povetkin higher than anybody Wilder has faced outside of Fury. He's more proven than Ortiz. The same for Fury (Wilder aside). Fury and AJ have both taken care of Wlad.

AJ and Wilder and their teams are both at fault for that matchup not happening yet. The public facts show just that, but a lot of people focus only on where AJ's team went wrong which is funny to me.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

You Wilder guyz never cease to amaze me. Just cannot for the life of you admit Fury was the better man vs Wilder. Embarrassed him for the vast majority of the fight. Now you won't even acknowledge he's had mental health issues. Wow... talk about a cultist... you're definitely that all over.

The fight was a draw lol I really don’t give a dàmn who won the fight. This has nothing to do with Wilder this is a thread about Joshua belts. Pay attention. Funny you didn’t touch on the cheating part.

[NachoMan]

Thats how a kd rd is scored 90% of the time as it was in this fight.

Right; however, that is not consistent with 10-point must system scoring rules.

[hugh grant]

Fury is the king. Josh should accept that. Fury did to wilder what Josh also hopes he'll be able to do. Fury actually did it.
So Josh being the gentleman i know he is, will have no problem publicly accepting Fury is the champ. Josh shouldnt want to be a champ on no tecnicality. He should want to beat Fury for it.

[PunchyPotorff]

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Originally Posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
But didn’t he lose the belts for his PED use? I’ve never seen a fighter come off a two year suspension for PEDs and get praised like Fury did lol. Now all the media saying he was out 2yrs due to mental health smh. That seems like the excuse for a lot of things now a days, when actually he was out 2 years because he was a cheater. Even tried to cheat the testing in this Wilder fight


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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff
You Wilder guyz never cease to amaze me. Just cannot for the life of you admit Fury was the better man vs Wilder. Embarrassed him for the vast majority of the fight. Now you won't even acknowledge he's had mental health issues. Wow... talk about a cultist... you're definitely that all over.

The fight was a draw lol I really don’t give a dàmn who won the fight. This has nothing to do with Wilder this is a thread about Joshua belts. Pay attention. Funny you didn’t touch on the cheating part.

By extension it's about Wilder, Fury, and Joshua. As for cheating, since you won't acknowledge mental illness, your argument is a huge zero. And now you try to say you don't care how the fight went. So why are you even commenting? Won't acknowledge Fury's excellent performance, won't acknowledge his mental illness problems, trying to float the b.s. claim it was PEDs only, no mental illness. What is wrong with you anyway? Get new parts for your head, dolt.