That Round 12 "KO"!!!!

[hugh grant]

Fury legs were strong, no chicken dance like Trevor berbick.
Fury wasn't vulnerable when he got up. If it had of been a long count that benefits wilder as he's either knackered or it's less time in round to ko exhausted wilder.
Cunningham hurt fury more.

[Madison Boxing]

the point isn't the count. the point is Fury was asleep at 5. Groves and Jacobs both got up by 10.

Yet they will go down in history as KO victim. Fury who was asleep still at 5 count, the only difference being He was shown mercy by the ref.

that's the only difference.


this entire controversy would be avoided if the ref waived him off. Nobody would debate that stoppage.

English, Russian and Showtime broadcasters called this a KO when Fury went down.

Fury was lucky to be given the full count in his case. He was asleep at 5.

Its called a 10 count for a reason i dont understand what u are crying about. You seem upset that it wasnt called off prematurely

[satiev1]

the point isn't the count. the point is Fury was asleep at 5. Groves and Jacobs both got up by 10.

Yet they will go down in history as KO victim. Fury who was asleep still at 5 count, the only difference being He was shown mercy by the ref.

that's the only difference.


this entire controversy would be avoided if the ref waived him off. Nobody would debate that stoppage.

English, Russian and Showtime broadcasters called this a KO when Fury went down.

Fury was lucky to be given the full count in his case. He was asleep at 5.

He was not asleep at all. Watch the video again. You can see when he goes down his eyes are intact and he is wide awake. He's taking his time to get up.

[satiev1]

Nobody would debate the stoppage if fury got up 3 seconds later completely clear eyed with his legs under him? This result has hurt you deeply. You should be happy with the gift draw wilder got and stop crying about it.

You don't stop the fight when the fighter still has his senses and his eyes aren't closed or rolled back.

[Ca$trO]

You guys are forgetting some important things here, the ref's can be biased in fact they are BUT it wasn't like fury was taking damage before the knock down he might have been winning a very tit for tat type of fight. The 2 knock downs IMO were the only devastating shots. The ref made the right choice in counting in the 12 round of a fight that the guy on the canvas might be winning.

I don't have a problem with the draw it made sense to me. I go with the old school rule the challenger has to beat the champion decisively to take his belts. I think its impossible to have a winner of a tit for tat fight when there is 2 knock downs against the challenger. A draw is the right call.

[mart321]

You guys are forgetting some important things here, the ref's can be biased in fact they are BUT it wasn't like fury was taking damage before the knock down he might have been winning a very tit for tat type of fight. The 2 knock downs IMO were the only devastating shots. The ref made the right choice in counting in the 12 round of a fight that the guy on the canvas might be winning.

I don't have a problem with the draw it made sense to me. I go with the old school rule the challenger has to beat the champion decisively to take his belts. I think its impossible to have a winner of a tit for tat fight when there is 2 knock downs against the challenger. A draw is the right call.

There is a problem with a draw as it proves the judges were cheating and can be bought. Say what you want about the challenger has to do this and that. But at the end of the day it comes down to who wins the rounds. And there is no way in hell anyone can rewatch that fight through round 1 to 12 and score it to make Wilder earn a draw without cheating.

[mart321]

we would've never known that.

Stevenson earlier that night didn't even fall as bad as Fury. He fell and sat up, was conscious. ref waived it off immediately. then he goes into a coma.



Fury went out like a light. limp. motionless. much worse optics. he's lucky nothing immediate happened. but in long term, we will wait and see if he goes into another depressive episode.


If the fight was stopped, there would have been 0 debate.

Maybe the ref or wilders corner should have jumped in earlier and threw in the towel for Wilder seeing as he had lost every round uo to the 8th and had took a completely one sided beating and had been absolutely outclassed.
Its not right for a fighter to take such one sided punishment.
We will have to wait and see if there is any effect on Wilder. Although it could be hard to tell....

[hugh grant]

I don't have a problem with the draw it made sense to me. I go with the old school rule the challenger has to beat the champion decisively to take his belts. I think its impossible to have a winner of a tit for tat fight when there is 2 knock downs against the challenger. A draw is the right call.

You do sound unbiased, but most think fury beat wilder decisively. A bad robb ery. Do you think it's a coincidence that most who say a draw is fair are done anonymously online?
It took until the 9th round for wilder to have success. Maybe because it was getting g to easy for fury and he got complacent.
Wilder is a great fighter. Do you think anyone else could beat wilder more decisively? At this level nothing comes easy. But for a ko specialist like wilder a ko is decisive victory. For a pure boxer, outboxing your opponent is decisive. Fury decisively outboxed.wilder as he is the pure boxer. He beat wilder as decisively as anyone would have expected.
Fury made wilder look like a nfl player. How decisive you want it? At this level, what you saw fury do to wilder is considered decisive. One looked like he'd been doing it all his life. The other looked like he was originally a football player And took up boxing late.

[Lomadeaux]

Fury was lucky to be given the full count in his case. He was asleep at 5.

He was not asleep. He got hit with a good shot and took his time like a professional would.

[Shape up]

we would've never known that.

Stevenson earlier that night didn't even fall as bad as Fury. He fell and sat up, was conscious. ref waived it off immediately. then he goes into a coma.



Fury went out like a light. limp. motionless. much worse optics. he's lucky nothing immediate happened. but in long term, we will wait and see if he goes into another depressive episode.


If the fight was stopped, there would have been 0 debate.

You've lost it