AJ a bit busy today
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I've seen some bullshit on here, but having your fighter miss like a windmilling ****** and being comprehensively outboxed for 10 rounds and then getting a gift draw is not something that would put "fear" in any opponent.
And any suggestion that AJ should come over to the US have surely been put to bed by that scoring?Comment
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they were making out joshua had no chance against him. It seems a long time since they were saying his 'awkwardness is his best strength' as if his sloppyness was on purpose lol.
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Sometimes some of these Wilder fanatics need schooling. They have less boxing knowledge nor brains to see exactly what is going on in front of their eye. They would rather join the 50m narratives. Than actually ask questions. Like why wouldn’t you meet someone if you really want the fight. Why would a meeting be non-productive? Where is the 50m coming through? Why is Wilder making 4m dollars guarantee and claiming 15m is slave contract.I am Neutral. A neutral can see a protected career when they see one, a neutral can see who really wants something and who doesnt, who is trying to make a fight and who isnt.
When somebody like Finkel claims they want to make the fight but refuse any attempt to make the fight i look at the actions not the words. Finkel is talking but he is not doing. Yet im seeing a steady flow of contracts, all better than Wilders getting off Finkel, coming from Hearn and nothing but refusals coming from Team Wilder.
All the words, all the talk is coming from Team Wilder but from what i can see all the action is coming from Team Joshua. It just seems you are one of the ones believing the bull**** words when actions speak louder than words.Comment
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ray...i guess you, likemany other brits, have a problem understanding contextSometimes some of these Wilder fanatics need schooling. They have less boxing knowledge nor brains to see exactly what is going on in front of their eye. They would rather join the 50m narratives. Than actually ask questions. Like why wouldn’t you meet someone if you really want the fight. Why would a meeting be non-productive? Where is the 50m coming through? Why is Wilder making 4m dollars guarantee and claiming 15m is slave contract.
yes wilder is making 4 mil vs fury...yes wilder usually makes less than that vs other guys.....but when hes fighting AJ hes fighting AJ...not fury...not ortiz....not stiverne....AJ
AJ is supposed to be a huge megastar and his fights do well....AJ makes alot of money...so when you combine what AJ brings with what wilder brings the wilder team feels 15 mil is low
its not like the wilder people havent looked into it..in fact warren helped them gauge the potential market value of that fight over there...and they feel the 15 mil is low based on projections
the 50 million has been confirmed to have been there.....you realize who wilder rolls with right? finkel, haymon and espinoza right? some of the most powerful men in boxing with access to tons of money....that have made some of the highest grossing fights in history right? so the 50 mil is/was never an issue
so there...heres an actual wilder fan asking questions and answering them for you without just regurgitating the line you hate to hear about the 50 mil...you know why you hate to hear it? because its true...he came up with the money and AJ still didnt want to fight
even after that wilder said he would take the 15 mil and fight in the UK if the fight was NEXT and in 2018...but hearn still couldnt do that either
before that wilder said hed fight whyte earlier this year if hearn could guarantee him AJ NEXT...and hearn didnt do that either
just stop talking...u are cluelessComment
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I am Neutral. A neutral can see a protected career when they see one, a neutral can see who really wants something and who doesnt, who is trying to make a fight and who isnt.
When somebody like Finkel claims they want to make the fight but refuse any attempt to make the fight i look at the actions not the words. Finkel is talking but he is not doing. Yet im seeing a steady flow of contracts, all better than Wilders getting off Finkel, coming from Hearn and nothing but refusals coming from Team Wilder.
All the words, all the talk is coming from Team Wilder but from what i can see all the action is coming from Team Joshua. It just seems you are one of the ones believing the bull**** words when actions speak louder than words.
Agreed.
I was on the fence because i thought Hearn's flat fee offers were not the way to do things and might be a tactic knowing it won't be accepted.
Since Finkel said Hearn sent a contract with a % split, then it becomes more obvious that Hearn is at least trying. They might not like the contract but that's what negotiations are for.
There's one side sending contracts and one side not willing to negotiate. Even when the other side made this $50m offer, they wouldn't sit down to talk about it.
How on earth can you get a deal done when one side literally wont come to the table.Comment
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you can jerk a guy around and pretend a few times...then expect them to do things your way when youre readyAgreed.
I was on the fence because i thought Hearn's flat fee offers were not the way to do things and might be a tactic knowing it won't be accepted.
Since Finkel said Hearn sent a contract with a % split, then it becomes more obvious that Hearn is at least trying. They might not like the contract but that's what negotiations are for.
There's one side sending contracts and one side not willing to negotiate. Even when the other side made this $50m offer, they wouldn't sit down to talk about it.
How on earth can you get a deal done when one side literally wont come to the table.
floyd had the same **** with pac and arum....floyd tried to make the fight and bob had clottey fight in his back pocket the whole time and was just publically pretending to want a floyd fight
thats why when pac announced the clottey fight floyd was screwed because he wasnt planning on anything else...so he had to have berto back out of the shane fight(that fight was signed)so that he could have shane...al haymon got berto to pull out citing the earthquake in haiti as th reason why when he still could have easily fought......bob jerked floyd around too after that and then floyd had enough and said "you know what forget these guys i aint even worried about it"
hearn ran his mouth about how wilder should fight whyte....wilder said he would if they guaranteed AJ next....hearn wouldnt
AJ said come up with the 50 mil and then wilders people did...and then AJs changed it up again "well it needs to be in the UK for the fans"...
ok...so wilder said ill fight in the UK and ill take the 15 mil...but the fight has to be next...this year
so what does hearn do? he sends a contract with no date so wilder asks whens the date "oh its april 2019"
after awhile guys get tired of nonsense and being jerked around....and dont really care to "meet" with people that have played games with them
a meeting DOESNT have to take place to have the principal terms agreed to....once they agree on the prinicpals they can meet to iron out all details.....but hearns team couldnt even get to the point of agreeing in principal...Comment
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