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  • Jab2Death
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    Why?!

    Do so many boxing fans say a close fight can't be a robbery? This is the most frustrating thing to read after these situations. If a fighter deserves to win based off of performance and even if he only edged it out by 1 point, HE STILL WON! A 1 point win that is ruled a draw or a loss is a ROBBERY, period!

    These guys literally put their lives on the line, and definitely risk their future quality of life. To take away something that is a huge life accomplishment, that they worked so hard for, risked everything for and most importantly deserved, IS 100% A ROBBERY!

    Have whatever opinion you want to have on a boxing match. I understand it can be subjective for different people and obviously is for a majority of the judges in the sport. The sport is broken, this known by most people. Anyone who believes in the notion a close fight can't be a robbery is just plain wrong.
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    Because, if it is close, you must allow for someone seeing the round differently than perhaps you may have scored it.

    A close fight always means there is an acceptable spectrum of scores, not just one finite one.

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      #3
      Originally posted by koolkc107
      Because, if it is close, you must allow for someone seeing the round differently than perhaps you may have scored it.

      A close fight always means there is an acceptable spectrum of scores, not just one finite one.
      That's exactly why boxing is broken. It shouldn't be that hard. The fact that three "professional" judges have three completely different scorecards says it all. It's ******! Also, almost all of these robbery situations are a heavy majority in the opinion of fans. You say allow for someone seeing the round differently, what about when 75-90% see the decision differently? Isn't that more important?

      A sport should never have an acceptable spectrum of scores. The fact that's even a thing just proves how broken this sport truly is. If there is going to be this ****** acceptable spectrum of scores then the number of judges needs to change, and by a lot.
      Last edited by Jab2Death; 12-02-2018, 03:24 AM.

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      • Jab2Death
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        #4
        115-111 one way, 115-110 one way and then 113-113. How is that not absolutely ****** to every boxing fan? It's like the three judges weren't just in disagreement with what they were watching, it's like all three were watching a completely different fight.

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        • twocoreys
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          #5
          This is literally an issue in every single sport that relies on human scoring. Figure skaters, MMA, snowboarding etc. You need to let it go bro.

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          • Robbie Barrett
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            #6
            Originally posted by Jab2Death
            Do so many boxing fans say a close fight can't be a robbery? This is the most frustrating thing to read after these situations. If a fighter deserves to win based off of performance and even if he only edged it out by 1 point, HE STILL WON! A 1 point win that is ruled a draw or a loss is a ROBBERY, period!

            These guys literally put their lives on the line, and definitely risk their future quality of life. To take away something that is a huge life accomplishment, that they worked so hard for, risked everything for and most importantly deserved, IS 100% A ROBBERY!

            Have whatever opinion you want to have on a boxing match. I understand it can be subjective for different people and obviously is for a majority of the judges in the sport. The sport is broken, this known by most people. Anyone who believes in the notion a close fight can't be a robbery is just plain wrong.
            If there's lots of close rounds that can shift it either way i don't believe it is a robbery. Today Fury clearly won 9 and clearly won the fight.

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            • ChickenTikka
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              #7
              If three judges said they saw A B and C, but each one favoured A, B and C better, respectively - then that would be okay you formulated a decision based on what you saw.

              BUT if one ref said he saw A, next ref saw B and next ref saw C indeoendant of each other, and that causes different results, the scoring system looks broken

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              • Jab2Death
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                #8
                Originally posted by twocoreys
                This is literally an issue in every single sport that relies on human scoring. Figure skaters, MMA, snowboarding etc. You need to let it go bro.
                Can you provide evidence of another scoring sport where three judges literally score completely opposite scores of each other? I will admit I haven't watched much Olympic sports in my life, but I highly doubt a figure skater will have one judge give a 3 one give a 6 and one give a 9. There's no way it'll be that far off. That's what happened tonight. How can you not be disgusted at 115-100 one way, 115-111 one way and 113-113? It makes zero sense that the "professional" judges can literally be completely spread across the "acceptable spectrum" like that. It's a joke and has ruined the sport, the funny part is that happened a long time ago and no one has even attempted to fix it.

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                • Jab2Death
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  If there's lots of close rounds that can shift it either way i don't believe it is a robbery. Today Fury clearly won 9 and clearly won the fight.
                  If judges are struggling with a close round there is a simple solution, score it 10-10. If all three judges think a round is close they shouldn't just reward it to one fighter out of necessity, especially when the rules say they don't need to. You rarely, and I mean RARELY ever see it done in boxing. Maybe that is something that needs to be changed and emphasized to help these incompetent judges. The biggest problem is there is a "supposedly" a set criteria to judge a boxing match, but when you have three judges who can set bias to any of the criteria as they see fit, of course you'll have completely different scores.

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                  • koolkc107
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jab2Death
                    That's exactly why boxing is broken. It shouldn't be that hard. The fact that three "professional" judges have three completely different scorecards says it all. It's ******! Also, almost all of these robbery situations are a heavy majority in the opinion of fans. You say allow for someone seeing the round differently, what about when 75-90% see the decision differently? Isn't that more important?

                    A sport should never have an acceptable spectrum of scores. The fact that's even a thing just proves how broken this sport truly is. If there is going to be this ****** acceptable spectrum of scores then the number of judges needs to change, and by a lot.
                    You seem to be relying on emotion rather than facts.

                    Facts are throughout the fight- ALL THRU THE FIGHT- Wilder threw more and landed the harder shots.

                    There are judges that prefer that to someone simply landing an average of only one more punch per round, which is what Fury did.

                    This was a close fight that easily could have went either way.

                    I am glad for the draw.

                    I am glad both men come out of a fight where they proved they were warriors and didn't have to suffer a loss to do so.

                    I am glad both men are now at least co-A side with ANY other fighter in the division.

                    You could make the case for either man being the best heavyweight there is and you'd be right.

                    What could be better for boxing fans?

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