"Bud" Crawford - "Look F all that ****** **** ya'll talking...

[Curt Henning]

wrong...haymon is the most powerful man in boxing....if haymon tells danny to fight crawford he will......thats why guys are with haymon...to let him guide their careers....and he does very well by the fighters...which is why almost all of them are happy.....

nobody that fought floyd ever negotiated their terms and position with floyd sr or roger...LOL....plain and simple...aruging otherwise is ****** and fruitless....its devoid of logic and just plain delusional

[Jsmooth9876]

[QUOTE=Curt Henning;19309350]i can see that point of view...and understand it

but if you want to fight danny you have to go to the guy in charge of his career....his advisor...who is the most powerful man in boxing(at least top 3 at worst).....haymon has a good WW crop and has a plan to match them....so if you potentially want to fight danny you might wanna check with al and find out if its something they might be interested in....because al "advises" danny...if al thinks its a good idea then he can convince danny it is.....if the money was worth the risk/fight then they would take it .....danny can make 3 mil against alot of guys

you go through al at the end of the day....hes the "advisor"....if al is interested then danny will be....thats how that works

you dont negotiate with canelos father or floyd sr when canelo or floyd chose you.....you go through the watsons, ellerbe and haymon[/QUOTE]

Why you keep trying to make this point as if these other dads are Angel Garcia who talks for his son 99% of the time. Everytime I see news about Danny, I hear Angel's voice.

Stop trying to act like you've cracked the code and we are all some kind of low IQ mouth breathers here. We all know Haymon is involved, that don't mean Danny Garcia is not his own man and cant call his "advisor" and tell that man to make a fight

And who the fk is Canelos father anyway?

[10COUNT]

Danny's advisers on here rather he not fight Crawford for some reason. Boxingscene if for fans of specific fighters, not fans of the actual sport.

[Fabes88]

bruh

im sorry you have a hard time understanding this simple fact

YOU DONT MAKE A FIGHT WITH ONE OF HAYMONS A-LISTERS WITHOUT GOING THROUGH HAYMON OR SAM WATSON AT LEAAST

it really needs to go no further than that statement....if you cant grasp that concept there is no hope for you in life

i know about angel...i know who he is and what he does in regards to dannys career

haymon runs his own boxing program...he has plans for danny...for future fights...that hes setting up....if you are outside of haymons circle and want a fight with one of his fighters you best contact him or sam watson in conjunction with any of that fighters inside camp

you can call angel...but if you dont talk to watson or haymon you havent done anything in regards to truly trying to make the fight

if you dont go to watson or haymon with an offer or even talk to them there is NO OFFER....

crawford has a huge waste of time fight AGAIN(and i like crawford alot)....and he has no choice because he has no real options...the news of his offer comes after hes already put the collazao fight out there...this is spin and damage control because of the backlash ...they know everyone is yawning about this fight

haymon is getting porter back in action offf his win against danny....thurman is about to comeback and then make a push....and spence/garcia is happening.....yet crawford has nothing to look ahead to really but more fights like benavidez/collazo

bob arum is a lying POS....its well documented and noted....hes trying hard to save face

you dont go calling peoples daddys when u want to seriously make a fight with a guy whos advised by the most powerful man in boxing

you think when floyd picked opponents they got on the phone with floyd sr to negotiate terms? no they was talking to watson, ellerbe and haymon to finalize the deals

if you want to fight danny and u aint talked to watson or haymon YOU FLAT OUT DIDNT TRY

First of all Floyd senior wasn’t to Floyd what Angel is to Danny. And let’s be real here team Garcia know there’s an offer. If they want the fight they can talk to Haymon and say this is the direction we want to go in and they aren’t doing that. I’ve seen Danny said he ducks no one and 3 million is nothing to him so let’s see if they want to pay him more or not.

[Curt Henning]

First of all Floyd senior wasn’t to Floyd what Angel is to Danny. And let’s be real here team Garcia know there’s an offer. If they want the fight they can talk to Haymon and say this is the direction we want to go in and they aren’t doing that. I’ve seen Danny said he ducks no one and 3 million is nothing to him so let’s see if they want to pay him more or not.

kenny porter is pretty pivotal in his sons life....if someone wants to fight shawn they go through them good ole boys....watson/haymon....yeah i know sr isnt as intricate as angel....but it makes no difference......it doesnt matter...flyd sr, kenny porter or angel...u wanna fight one of their sons u go to the most powerful man in boxing

al has his own program to run....he may prefer to put danny in with one of his other fighters to get 2 guys in on one date and network....so in order to try and break that up, if you are an outsider, you present an offer to haymon.......

haymon has more power in the sport and business than angel...angel runs barber shops and his daughters' rap career......negotiating tv and network deals with a rival promter is not amongst angels level of expertise

stop making excuses for bob and bud...i love bud actually....but he only dropped this **** after the collazo fight was out there and he knew the public was going to hate it....but bob doesnt have many options so he needs to make it look like he tried for something big and better.....its the oldest trick in the book....u are falling hook, line and sinker

the public has 0 interest in crawford/collazo at a time when crawford should be doing something bigger....and this danny stuff is just to save face

you go through al.....the power broker in the sport...the man that has made billions in revenue.....not some fighters dad....

[satiev1]

What language is this?

[Curt Henning]

Danny's advisers on here rather he not fight Crawford for some reason. Boxingscene if for fans of specific fighters, not fans of the actual sport.

i could care less if danny fights bud, gets knocked out, and never fights again...im not even a danny fan to be honest...i think hes a pretty tough kid...but bud is way better and prob beats him easily

thats not the point...the point is if you want to fight danny u go through sam watson and haymon...not his dad

u dont go to canelos dad when canelo picks u and u wanna talk terms.....when floyd picked guerrero u think ruben and roberts team were negotiating terms with floyd sr and roger? lol...hell no.....same with kenny porter....u wanna fight shawn? u think ugas is talking turkey with kenny porter? hell no...u go through the pbc team....its really simple

this is just bob and bud trying to save face because they are putting together another crap fight for bud...and they dont really have a choice

[Southpawology]

I cant wait for the day when spence, porter, or thurman mops the floor with this overrated hypedjob. 31 years old and his best win is part time gym math teacher jeff horn LMFAOOO.

Terrence crawford wont have a signature fight until he is mid 30's. After collazo he'll fight mike alvarado. THIS GUY IS A JOKE!!!

[InsaneBoxer]

Crawford is right. Going to Angel guarantees they got the offer. Other than that, who cares how they got to Danny?

And lets be real. The reason the fight is not happening is not because they didn't go to Hymon. No way in hell Danny would ever want this fight. We know his whole career has been going the easiest route possible. Why would he want to get whopped by Bud?

[Eff Pandas]

Haymon is his manager, not his adviser. Thus, he’s the one to call. I’m pretty sure they know this.

THIS.

People act like a manager is gonna hide options from his client. Thats a highly dumb move since the manager makes money off of his client's paydays & the more he gets his client the bigger his cut ends up being.

But to me that offer sounded weak. $3M to cross the street when he's making $1.5M-$2M on his side of the street ain't a big enough bump. And there is a leverage thing going on here to. Who the f#ck is Bud going to fight if not a PBC guy that anyone cares about? Top Rank isn't taking that reality seriously cuz if he was he'd know he needs to sweeten the pot to make it worth Danny's time.

Danny's not ******. He knows Bud ain't got no body to fight. So f#ck you pay me or good luck fighting Mean Machine & all those Eastern Euro dudes who can't nobody pronounce their names after being with TR for 2 years or w/e now.