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  • #21
    Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post
    Go rewatch his fights again. Folks chooses to see what they wish to see. On almost EVERY occasion he has landed a solid jab quickly followed by a straight strong hand then and only then does he throw hard extremely hard haymakers. Go watch Foreman. Same exact thing. The only difference is that folks don’t like Wilder
    I've watched Wilder countless times start immediately throwing flurries of punches at the 1st opportunity,he then oftentimes leaves himself highly vulnerable to being countered because he pulls his arms way back & starts windmilling. The problem has been that his opponents lack the ability/agility to capitalize on this fact to exploit this obvious weakness. If Fury is to beat Wilder he needs to wait for Wilder to start windmilling then counter potshot him to death each time,when Wilder pulls his arms way back to start windmilling hes completely vulnerable but his opponents in the past usually just start covering up out of fear of his massive power. But there is no doubt in my mind that despite Wilders amazing power,this 1 glaring weakness can be his undoing vs an opponent who can box & move while hitting hard enough to make him start to 2nd guess his flurries
    Last edited by kushking; 11-28-2018, 03:40 PM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by kushking View Post
      I've watched Wilder countless times start immediately throwing flurries of punches at the 1st opportunity,he then oftentimes leaves himself highly vulnerable to being countered because he pulls his arms way back & starts windmilling. The problem has been that his opponents lack the ability/agility to capitalize on this fact to exploit this obvious weakness. If Fury is to beat Wilder he needs to wait for Wilder to start windmilling then counter potshot him to death each time,when Wilder pulls his arms way back to start windmilling hes completely vulnerable but his opponents in the past usually just start covering up out of fear of his massive power.
      It’s EXACTLY the same way Foreman fought and they couldn’t get him

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post
        It’s EXACTLY the same way Foreman fought and they couldn’t get him
        You must also remember that Foreman punched himself out vs Ali through Alis own design. Ali knew that if he can whether the storm foreman would become too tired to defend himself as his only defense was great offense just like Wilder. Fury needs to conserve his energy & frustrate Wilder by taking him to deep waters. Wilder also doesn't have the frame to withstand being countered to the body all night like foreman did.
        Last edited by kushking; 11-28-2018, 03:47 PM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by kushking View Post
          You must also remember that Foreman punched himself out vs Ali through Alis own design. Ali knew that if he can whether the storm foreman would become too tired to defend himself as his only defense was great offense just like Wilder. Fury needs to conserve his energy & frustrate Wilder by taking him to deep waters. Wilder also doesn't have the frame to withstand being countered to the body all night like foreman did.
          Fury is no Ali nor does he have a chin anywhere close to what Ali’s was.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post
            Go rewatch his fights again. Folks chooses to see what they wish to see. On almost EVERY occasion he has landed a solid jab quickly followed by a straight strong hand then and only then does he throw hard extremely hard haymakers. Go watch Foreman. Same exact thing. The only difference is that folks don’t like Wilder
            When i rewatch hes fights i see a very low workrate, an over reliance on power, and an occasional shaky chin against very low level opposition. I see a guy with a wide stance who relies on hes length and range alot. Ive seen a guy who seems very disorganised under fire. In the Ortiz fight he seemed to go pretty stiff under fire. Luckily, Ortiz had no stamina, which was to be expected in hes condition. Wilder falls behind against inferior op because of hes low output. He'll do it here but wont be able to be so gung-ho to pull it back because Fury can match him size wise, actually knows how to move hes head and is experienced.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Mindgames View Post

              When i rewatch hes fights i see a very low workrate, an over reliance on power, and an occasional shaky chin against very low level opposition. I see a guy with a wide stance who relies on hes length and range alot. Ive seen a guy who seems very disorganised under fire. In the Ortiz fight he seemed to go pretty stiff under fire. Luckily, Ortiz had no stamina, which was to be expected in hes condition. Wilder falls behind against inferior op because of hes low output. He'll do it here but wont be able to be so gung-ho to pull it back because Fury can match him size wise, actually knows how to move hes head and is experienced.
              Shaky chin against very low level opposition? Is that why the entire HW division avoids Ortiz to convince all the fans Ortiz is very low level competition? NOONE wants Ortiz and there’s a good reason why

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post
                Shaky chin against very low level opposition? Is that why the entire HW division avoids Ortiz to convince all the fans Ortiz is very low level competition? NOONE wants Ortiz and there’s a good reason why
                I actually saw Ortiz fight Malik Scott and Dave Allen. He was shot, slow and awful. Whether it was because he was a juicer coming off or whether it was because of documented health problems, he had no stamina. That's why after the doctor was called in to look at Wilder mid fight, he couldnt follow up. The shaky chin against low level op, is guys like Sconiers and even Molina. Dont pretend this guy is Lamotta, gonna start walking through shots to land hes own. That's not hes style, and hes style wont work here, no height and reach to fall back on this time.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Hatesrats View Post
                  Based on Fury is getting KTFO
                  Wilders has been knocked out and saved by the bell twice. Fury has never been knock out but think wilder wins inside 4 rounds ? You're a true wilder fan ,no intelligence whatsoever. Cong**** !

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                  • #29
                    It's got that vibe, I think Fury will shock a lot of people, hope he doesn't get clipped because he will school Wilder badly.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by robbyheartbaby View Post
                      It's got that vibe, I think Fury will shock a lot of people, hope he doesn't get clipped because he will school Wilder badly.
                      I'm feeling a vibe of a people preparing the Fury would have won but for the lucky shot Wilder landed excuse.

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