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  • The D3vil
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    #141
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    firstly..... " anyone from 154-168 "

    so yea, I find your excuse quite amusing.....

    secondly..... Mora, Derevyanchenko, Saunders, and Charlo..... were all middleweights when Golovkin ducked them..... so yea, that statement is simply not true

    also.....

    Lara would have fought Golovkin at 160, and at that point in time Lara would have been Golovkin's best opponent.....

    the excuse they gave to avoid Lara and Ward was.....

    " irrelevant, and not a draw "..... they mentioned nothing about middleweight..... and yet, on each on those occasions, they selected someone WORSE..... someone who actually was irrelevant, and not a draw

    and you guys always argue that Cotto and Canelo were middleweights, so yea..... amusing excuse LMAO

    Mr " anyone from 154-168 " was willing to defend his title against Rosado at catchweight, but he was not willing to defend his title against SUPERSTARS

    listen, forget your excuses..... FACT: Golovkin could have fought those guys, but he CHOSE not to..... so your "ducking me doe" excuse is rubbish
    Saunders ducked GGG and everybody knows that. Only you and a few GGG haters claim anything different.

    Derevyechenko is only 12-1 and wasn't a factor until like 6 months ago and Charlo was at 154 until what, late last year?

    Both of those guys only came into the picture after, GGG and Canelo had already signed to fight each other last year.

    And GGG beat the guy who destroyed Sergio Mora twice in Danny Jacobs.

    Stop it.

    You GGG haters find the most ridiculous things to seize on to protect Canelo.

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    • KillaCamNZ
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      #142
      His quest for greatness will always be held back by his own actions, and the stain that comes with it.

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      • aboutfkntime
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        #143
        Originally posted by The D3vil
        Saunders ducked GGG and everybody knows that. Only you and a few GGG haters claim anything different.....

        see, that is why everybody is laughing at you golov-morons

        not only do you ignore Pvssykin's selective matchmaking, you talk shlt and throw other fighters under a bus

        in a genuine negotiation, when did Saunders duck Golovkin?

        there are THREE times when Golovkin COULD have fought Saunders, but he CHOSE not to

        1) they low-balled Saunders 1.5mil, and then quickly ran off to fight Dominic Wade..... with no counter-offer, and no genuine effort to negotiate..... despite the fact that Saunders was the reigning WBO champ

        but immediately following the Wade cherry-pick, Golovkin selected Kell Brook..... WHO MADE 4.5mil

        2) Saunders signed to fight Golovkin in Kazakhstan, but Golovkin (understandably) selected Canelo..... so you are a fkn moron for suggesting that Saunders ducked him

        3) why the fcuk would Golovkin select a total NO-HOPER in Vanes, when Saunders was running around with his "dream"..... calling him Pvssy-Borat.,.... and offering to fight him in June???

        a unification > a mando, so Golovkin would not have been stripped for refusing to fight Derevyanchenko..... instead, Golovkin avoided TWO threats, selected an inactive JMW, and got stripped for his troubles in the process.....

        the very second Billy-Joe Saunders said that he was available, there was no other fight to make..... Munguia, Spike, and Vanes..... should never have been mentioned


        Originally posted by The D3vil
        ..... Derevyanchenko is only 12-1 and wasn't a factor until like 6 months ago and Charlo was at 154 until what, late last year?

        Both of those guys only came into the picture after, GGG and Canelo had already signed to fight each other last year.....

        FACT: Derevyanchenko was his mandatory.
        FACT: Golovkin got stripped for ducking his mandatory

        /story

        FACT: he was ordered by the WBC to fight Charlo, with the winner guaranteed a Canelo payday..... but Team Bullshlt said that fight..... "did not make sense"

        they had no problem fighting shlt mandatories, when there were better fighters available..... but they will not consider fighting a mandatory who poses a threat, even with a HUGEpayday at stake..... WTF?

        it appears that Charlo is a boogieman


        Originally posted by The D3vil
        And GGG beat the guy who destroyed Sergio Mora twice in Danny Jacobs.

        Stop it.

        You GGG haters find the most ridiculous things to seize on to protect Canelo.

        Triangle theories do not work in boxing.....

        Mora was a known mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against..... so they took an easier/safer option, a no-hoper

        and btw, Team Bullshlt had to be forced to fight Danny Jacobs..... they did everything they could to avoid that fight..... they stalled for sooooo long it cost them a fight date, and they only had to pay Jacobs an extra 250k LMAO

        forget your childish excuses, the fact is..... Golovkin COULD have taken ALL of those fights, but he CHOSE not to.....

        so that " duckin me doe " story was just tard-fodder, and you clowns hungrily lapped it up

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        • The D3vil
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          #144
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime
          see, that is why everybody is laughing at you golov-morons

          not only do you ignore Pvssykin's selective matchmaking, you talk shlt and throw other fighters under a bus

          in a genuine negotiation, when did Saunders duck Golovkin?

          there are THREE times when Golovkin COULD have fought Saunders, but he CHOSE not to

          1) they low-balled Saunders 1.5mil, and then quickly ran off to fight Dominic Wade..... with no counter-offer, and no genuine effort to negotiate..... despite the fact that Saunders was the reigning WBO champ

          but immediately following the Wade cherry-pick, Golovkin selected Kell Brook..... WHO MADE 4.5mil

          2) Saunders signed to fight Golovkin in Kazakhstan, but Golovkin (understandably) selected Canelo..... so you are a fkn moron for suggesting that Saunders ducked him

          3) why the fcuk would Golovkin select a total NO-HOPER in Vanes, when Saunders was running around with his "dream"..... calling him Pvssy-Borat.,.... and offering to fight him in June???

          a unification > a mando, so Golovkin would not have been stripped for refusing to fight Derevyanchenko..... instead, Golovkin avoided TWO threats, selected an inactive JMW, and got stripped for his troubles in the process.....

          the very second Billy-Joe Saunders said that he was available, there was no other fight to make..... Munguia, Spike, and Vanes..... should never have been mentioned





          FACT: Derevyanchenko was his mandatory.
          FACT: Golovkin got stripped for ducking his mandatory

          /story

          FACT: he was ordered by the WBC to fight Charlo, with the winner guaranteed a Canelo payday..... but Team Bullshlt said that fight..... "did not make sense"

          they had no problem fighting shlt mandatories, when there were better fighters available..... but they will not consider fighting a mandatory who poses a threat, even with a HUGEpayday at stake..... WTF?

          it appears that Charlo is a boogieman





          Triangle theories do not work in boxing.....

          Mora was a known mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against..... so they took an easier/safer option, a no-hoper

          and btw, Team Bullshlt had to be forced to fight Danny Jacobs..... they did everything they could to avoid that fight..... they stalled for sooooo long it cost them a fight date, and they only had to pay Jacobs an extra 250k LMAO

          forget your childish excuses, the fact is..... Golovkin COULD have taken ALL of those fights, but he CHOSE not to.....

          so that " duckin me doe " story was just tard-fodder, and you clowns hungrily lapped it up
          Saunders only wanted lottery money to fight GGG and you know that. The guy asked for $7 million to fight Danny Jacobs. Asking for a gazillion dollars is a form of ducking and you know that. Plus, you know that if he fought Saunders in June, he couldn't have gotten the first Canelo fight, who was the lineal champion.

          Saunders has been holding that belt hostage for years and you know that. He hasn't wanted to fight anybody That's like arguing Sergey Kovalev was ducking Adonis Stevenson all these years.

          And you keep once again bringing up Derevychenko as if that fight wasn't only made possible by Canelo eating "tainted meat" and getting suspended, leaving the GGG people only a few weeks to train for a totally different fight.

          And had he fought Munguia,, people like you would've done exactly what Floyd haters do when they accuse him of cherrypicking when he fought Canelo when he was 23.

          It's absolutely ridiculous to judge a 36 year old GGG for taking an easy fight on such short notice knowing that the 2nd Canelo fight was right around the corner.

          Saunders was not ready to fight on Cinco De Mayo, which was the date the GGG already had reserved. He said he was injured and once again, would've pushed the fight back into the summer with the 2nd Canelo fight being on the horizon for Mexican Independence Day.

          Portraying GGG as being scared of Saunders or Mora is something so ridiculous that you can't find not ONE boxing expert who makes those arguments. Only salty Canelo stans have to bend over backwards to make those arguments.

          And it's funny how you never bring up Canelo vacating the WBC title, that he was going to get stripped of, because he didn't want to fight Golovkin who was his mandatory, but now you just care about mandatories, right?

          Look GGG wants no part of Charlo or Jacobs today at 36, that's true. If you want to call that ducking, go right ahead. I got zero problems with that, but prime GGG ducked nobody and it's ridiculous to claim that he did.

          Talking about he had to fight Andre Ward and all these other people who weren't in his division is ridiculous. It's what Floyd haters do when they say he should've fought GGG.

          My stance for GGG is exactly what it was for Floyd or Hagler or anybody else. Guys who are champions that long shouldn't have to bend over backwards or move up in weight or do anything other than defend their belts to the people who are deserving of shots.

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            #145
            If Canelo retired today he'd be a hall of famer.

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            • Lion81
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              #146
              Originally posted by pillowfists98
              If Canelo retired today he'd be a hall of famer.
              Easily.

              He's working on cementing ATG status. Only 28.

              Most 28 year olds right now are barely getting started on their resumes. Some don't start fighting decent competition until their 30's.

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              • aboutfkntime
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                #147
                Originally posted by The D3vil
                Saunders only wanted lottery money to fight GGG and you know that. The guy asked for $7 million to fight Danny Jacobs. Asking for a gazillion dollars is a form of ducking and you know that. Plus, you know that if he fought Saunders in June, he couldn't have gotten the first Canelo fight, who was the lineal champion.

                Saunders has been holding that belt hostage for years and you know that. He hasn't wanted to fight anybody That's like arguing Sergey Kovalev was ducking Adonis Stevenson all these years.

                And you keep once again bringing up Derevychenko as if that fight wasn't only made possible by Canelo eating "tainted meat" and getting suspended, leaving the GGG people only a few weeks to train for a totally different fight.

                And had he fought Munguia,, people like you would've done exactly what Floyd haters do when they accuse him of cherrypicking when he fought Canelo when he was 23.

                It's absolutely ridiculous to judge a 36 year old GGG for taking an easy fight on such short notice knowing that the 2nd Canelo fight was right around the corner.

                Saunders was not ready to fight on Cinco De Mayo, which was the date the GGG already had reserved. He said he was injured and once again, would've pushed the fight back into the summer with the 2nd Canelo fight being on the horizon for Mexican Independence Day.

                Portraying GGG as being scared of Saunders or Mora is something so ridiculous that you can't find not ONE boxing expert who makes those arguments. Only salty Canelo stans have to bend over backwards to make those arguments.

                And it's funny how you never bring up Canelo vacating the WBC title, that he was going to get stripped of, because he didn't want to fight Golovkin who was his mandatory, but now you just care about mandatories, right?

                Look GGG wants no part of Charlo or Jacobs today at 36, that's true. If you want to call that ducking, go right ahead. I got zero problems with that, but prime GGG ducked nobody and it's ridiculous to claim that he did.

                Talking about he had to fight Andre Ward and all these other people who weren't in his division is ridiculous. It's what Floyd haters do when they say he should've fought GGG.

                My stance for GGG is exactly what it was for Floyd or Hagler or anybody else. Guys who are champions that long shouldn't have to bend over backwards or move up in weight or do anything other than defend their belts to the people who are deserving of shots.



                whoah, back up

                don't mention Floyd, or Ward, or Hagler.....

                which of those guys do not have a signature win.....but do have a list of EIGHT opponents who they COULD have fought, but CHOSE not to?

                your excuses are rubbish..... because the fact is, Golovkin COULD have fought those guys, but he CHOSE not to..... and yet, you are still running around peddling that "ducking me doe" story lol

                nothing you said is a genuine reason why those fights did not happen..... what you actually said, are just weak excuses that Golovkin could have used if he did not want to fight those guys, but not an actual reason

                what you just said is..... Golovkin did not have to fight those guys

                and I agree with you on that..... he didn't have to LMAO

                dude, if you are ok with the fact that Golovkin COULD have taken those fights, but CHOSE not to..... then that is on you

                gratz

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                • The D3vil
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  whoah, back up

                  don't mention Floyd, or Ward, or Hagler.....

                  which of those guys do not have a signature win.....but do have a list of EIGHT opponents who they COULD have fought, but CHOSE not to?

                  your excuses are rubbish..... because the fact is, Golovkin COULD have fought those guys, but he CHOSE not to..... and yet, you are still running around peddling that "ducking me doe" story lol

                  nothing you said is a genuine reason why those fights did not happen..... what you actually said, are just weak excuses that Golovkin could have used if he did not want to fight those guys, but not an actual reason

                  what you just said is..... Golovkin did not have to fight those guys

                  and I agree with you on that..... he didn't have to LMAO

                  dude, if you are ok with the fact that Golovkin COULD have taken those fights, but CHOSE not to..... then that is on you

                  gratz
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