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  • #31
    Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
    The question who has Tyson Fury fought in the past two and half years to even remotely suggest that he is ready for a Deontay Wilder fight. I think this fight is a bit premature. Fury isn't ready yet but Anthony Joshua is. Tyson Fury hasn't defeated anyone since his comeback. Has he beaten a Jarrell Miller, a Dominique Breazeale or a Dillian Whyte? The answer is no. So therefore, he isn't beating Deontay Wilder either?
    I think so too and I think Wilder is just an opportunist.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by vitali1999 View Post
      People say Fury isn't ready cause his last 2 fights were against bums that won't prepare him for wilder but that's the kind of fighter wilder has fought his entire career. With the exception of Ortiz 9 months ago so what's to prepare wilder for Fury ? Its a pick-em fight to me but I lean toward Fury
      You really can't see the difference?

      Wilder coming off his best career win after nine months,

      Fury coming back after a 2 or 3 year hiatus/coke binge losing 150 pounds (the equivalent of a Welterweight fighter) Then fighting 2 guys ranked way below the top 50 and looking rusty as hell. No one's even certain he is back at a level that can compete with the top 20 let alone the top 2.

      If he wins the improvements since the Pianeta fight alone would be nothing short of a miracle. A Fury win would appear to be achieved 'against all odds' if it happened.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Jax teller View Post
        You really can't see the difference?

        Wilder coming off his best career win after nine months,

        Fury coming back after a 2 or 3 year hiatus/coke binge losing 150 pounds (the equivalent of a Welterweight fighter) Then fighting 2 guys ranked way below the top 50 and looking rusty as hell. No one's even certain he is back at a level that can compete with the top 20 let alone the top 2.

        If he wins the improvements since the Pianeta fight alone would be nothing short of a miracle. A Fury win would appear to be achieved 'against all odds' if it happened.
        Wilder coming off his longest layoff ever. 9 months.Rust. To me it will be a miracle if wilder wins. If Fury wins I won't be surprised. But nobody knows boxing like you huh

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        • #34
          I think Fury will outbox him and possibly stop him late. Wilder’s best shot is early doors. If by the 4th he hasn’t closed the deal, he’s in big trouble. Playing a cagey game against Fury will be his downfall. Best bet is to come out windmilling for the KO and hope to land a big one.

          I don’t see it happening.

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          • #35
            The closer this gets the more belief I have that it may be a troublesome fight for Wilder. Still expect him to win.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by vitali1999 View Post
              Wilder coming off his longest layoff ever. 9 months.Rust. To me it will be a miracle if wilder wins. If Fury wins I won't be surprised. But nobody knows boxing like you huh
              That's only 3 months extra than the regular time between fights against all the factors I listed for Fury.

              Are you deliberately being a fool/troll?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Jax teller View Post
                You really can't see the difference?

                Wilder coming off his best career win after nine months,

                Fury coming back after a 2 or 3 year hiatus/coke binge losing 150 pounds (the equivalent of a Welterweight fighter) Then fighting 2 guys ranked way below the top 50 and looking rusty as hell. No one's even certain he is back at a level that can compete with the top 20 let alone the top 2.

                If he wins the improvements since the Pianeta fight alone would be nothing short of a miracle. A Fury win would appear to be achieved 'against all odds' if it happened.
                Sure. Almighty know it all you are not

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by vitali1999 View Post
                  Sure. Almighty know it all you are not
                  That's a good way to deflect the facts thrown at you.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Boksfan View Post
                    That is not a prediction.
                    Lewis didn't make a prediction though did he. He said one of those two outcomes are the most likely.

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                    • #40
                      My initial reaction to this fight being announced was that it's too early for Fury. To my mind there are just so many unknown variables here relating to Fury: fitness, mental well being and punch resistance - which are solely based on his incredible weight lose and extremely (in boxing terms) long period of inactivity, since his dependency fueled mother-of-all blow outs; and that's not even mentioning Wilder's improvements, confidence gain and KO power!
                      When all is said and done, I look back to how Wilder has performed previously. At times, he's looked so dangerous but that is usually against fighters standing in front of him, with little/no head movement. Other times he has also appeared to struggle against many lower tier boxers with an OK'ish defense... until he's caught them that is. Even against Ortiz, Wilder looked the 2nd best boxer in the ring until he got to Ortiz. I found myself wondering is that because Ortiz's fitness wasn't good enough? or was/is Ortiz over hyped (what other top fighters has he beaten)? or, was Wilder's game plan to let Ortiz tire himself out and try to catch him when possible?
                      Based on the way he's always fought, I think we can safely assume that Fury will move (a lot) around the ring, showing lots of feints and head movement... I can't see him standing square on to Wilder in the centre of the ring. So then the logical question is, can Wilder catch Fury? A few years ago, I would have thought that Fury was far to good a boxer and would probably make Wilder look foolish. Now though... well I just don't know that Fury is good enough or maybe not even fit enough to stay out of Wilder's way for 12 rounds. If Wilder does catch him, especially later on then all bets are off.
                      Last edited by ChrisCook; 11-28-2018, 10:28 AM.

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