is wilder -170 xmas come early?

**man down** · 11-26-2018, 04:01 PM

Ill head out to the sports book later.

**daggum** · 11-26-2018, 04:07 PM

look at the cards for wilder-ortiz this is a sure win no matter what happens

**Curt Henning** · 11-26-2018, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by daggum

look at the cards for wilder-ortiz this is a sure win no matter what happens

hahaha....ok

so this is free money then right?! do you need me to lend you some so you can afford xmas lil stevie janowski?

**Madison Boxing** · 11-26-2018, 04:20 PM

Furys not getting a decision in america even if he outboxes him

**boliodogs** · 11-26-2018, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by Curt Henning

looks like it to me

the opinion of the anti wilder crowd would suggest wilder should be like anywhere from a -300 to -500 favorite they way they talk about how bad fury is now...the oddsmakers either disagree....

this is a great price on wilder....im loading up...this reminds of getting a great price on wlad against haye...you never saw wlad that low...he was like -200

wilder was almost double this price against a bigger threat imo in ortiz

i think we all know that wilder has the advantage almost everywhere...fury cannot outwork him over 12 rounds..maybe the first 6 while wilder is figuring him out/measuring him...or while wilder is setting him up....but wilder will eventually come in if that happens.....wilders stamina is top notch in the sport..nevermind just for a HW

does anyone think fury can actually hurt wilder? im not sure he can....i mean sure...any well placed punch from a hw can hurt someone...it just seems unlikely this guy is going to hurt wilder enough to end/change a fight...

if he cant hurt him and cant outwork him over 12....im not sure he can win

the only thing that worries me slightly is that wilder will fall victim to furys tricks...like punching out of the break(seems jay deas has that covered though)....and that furys shoulder shimmys and hand wheeling might cause some hesitation on wilders part

im having a hard time seeing a logical scenario where fury can win other than getting lucky with a perfectly placed shot

you should be able to fund a healthy christmas...not only for your family but maybe even your side girls family(win some real points with her)...and if you have a real bankroll you should be able to fund several xmas in advance(be disciplined and store some of it away)...and im talking about a healthy xmas with the finest luxuries and exotic handbags, animals or furs....with a vacation booked at the end just for added measure

You are spending all this money on the wonderful Christmas for your family and your side girl's family and you haven't won a dime yet. I think the odds are correct. Wilder has a traditionally low punch output per round. Wilder has been well behind on points when a KO win saved him from defeat against guys not nearly as skilled as Fury. Fury also averages many more punches per round than Wilder. Fury could outbox and out work Wilder and win a ud. It's your money so bet it however you like.

**Jsmooth9876** · 11-26-2018, 05:22 PM

He has the slight advantage of being a 1000x better boxer than Wilder.

I dont think theres a way Wilder can win by decision if somehow Fury doesn't go down mulitple times in the fight.

I got Wilder by KO though, I can't see Fury not getting caught at some point later in the fight. But he's gonna frustrate Wilder early by out boxing him and tying him up a bunch.

**chrisJS** · 11-26-2018, 06:05 PM

I wouldn't entirely rule out Fury shutting down Wilder and him not being able to get off but how aggressive will Fury be? I think it's going to be difficult to win a decision for Fury and he's very unlikely to be able to muster enough offense to KO him.

I can see a scenario where a lot felt Fury did enough to win but he loses a close one on the cards. Wilder isn't skilled and whilst Fury doesn't have a great chin he knows enough to not put himself in major danger. Wilder could potentially get frustrated whereas I don't think Wilder could frustrate Fury and sometimes with power power guys some nights they just don't land the right shot and they face an uphill struggle.

I think the most likely scenario is Fury wins a few rounds and walks into a big shot and that's likely to be the end of things. Either he just survives the distance or gets KO'd but like I said a scenario where it appears Fury edges it but loses on the scores wouldn't surprise me. It's a tough fight to handicap because we still have no idea how close Fury is to what he was a few years back.

**DuckAdonis** · 11-26-2018, 06:07 PM

I'm gonna put some money on Wilder if true...I'm not convinced at all that Fury is back to where he was.

I'm rooting for Fury so it's a win-win situation. If Wilder KO's him I'm happy with the money and if Fury wins then I'm happy that the gypsy king is back.

**Biolink** · 11-26-2018, 10:47 PM

WhaT exactly should I bet?

is wilder -170 xmas come early?