What stance will Fury box in most against Wilder?

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  • Marchegiano
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    #21
    Originally posted by Vinnykin
    Prepare yourself for Wilder not landing anything and getting totally outboxed.

    Wilder is a fool and a **** boxer.... his only hope is one punch.... think about that for a second... his only chance of winning is a clean KO punch or a buzz and windmill and hope the ref jumps in.

    Wilder/Fury, in boxing terms, is a mismatch.
    49-0 all mismatches in boxing terms.

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    • Vinnykin
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      #22
      Originally posted by Marchegiano
      49-0 all mismatches in boxing terms.
      49-0... what? lol

      lets not try and compare Marciano to Wilder please.

      He's away to get beat by the first boxer that is in shape and proven.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Vinnykin
        49-0... what? lol

        lets not try and compare Marciano to Wilder please.

        He's away to get beat by the first boxer that is in shape and proven.
        You used the same criticisms that used to be aimed at Marciano. I didn't draw the comparison I highlighted it.

        You ended this post with a Marciano criticism too....so....49-0 is still a fair response.

        When you can think of a criticism that wasn't applied to Marciano I'll stop using his record as a shield. Until then the **** you are saying has been disproven. The only unbeaten HW champion of all time didn't know much boxing himself and he did just fine.

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        • Vinnykin
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          #24
          Originally posted by Marchegiano
          You used the same criticisms that used to be aimed at Marciano. I didn't draw the comparison I highlighted it.

          You ended this post with a Marciano criticism too....so....49-0 is still a fair response.
          !lol
          When you can think of a criticism that wasn't applied to Marciano I'll stop using his record as a shield. Until then the **** you are saying has been disproven. The only unbeaten HW champion of all time didn't know much boxing himself and he did just fine.
          Wow... don't know where to start ripping this post to shreds lol

          OK, you obviously drew attention to the record..... Marciano fought much better opponents and is 10 times the fighter Wilder is.

          End of.

          Wilder has fought ONE good opponent in 40 fights for f**k sake

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            #25
            I actually think that be should stay comfortable and natural in a conventional stance. Against a twitchy, instinctive power puncher like Wilder, Fury needs to stay alert and if he isnt capable of fighting instinctively as a southpaw,he could get caught and the right hand is southpaw’s ******nite.

            Fury needs to fight in a style that’s most comfortable to him cuz he needs to box perfectly to beat wilder.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Vinnykin
              Wow... don't know where to start ripping this post to shreds lol

              OK, you obviously drew attention to the record..... Marciano fought much better opponents and is 10 times the fighter Wilder is.

              End of.

              Wilder has fought ONE good opponent in 40 fights for f**k sake
              It isn't a difficult concept I outlined.

              I don't think anything you've said in this particular post in anyway works against my claim....seems to endorse it actually. I think you are either lost or grasping at straws.

              Let us recap:

              I say Wilder's going to hurt Fury

              You tell me Wilder/Fury, in boxing terms, is a mismatch.

              I tell you Marciano's fights were considered boxing mismatches

              Now you are telling me Marciano fought better men than Wilder has as if that detracts from me claiming Marciano's fights were boxing mismatches.

              I can assure you, you putting over Marciano's resume does not help your argument son.

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              • johnbook
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                #27
                prone I think

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                • Vinnykin
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Marchegiano
                  It isn't a difficult concept I outlined.

                  I don't think anything you've said in this particular post in anyway works against my claim....seems to endorse it actually. I think you are either lost or grasping at straws.

                  Let us recap:

                  I say Wilder's going to hurt Fury

                  You tell me Wilder/Fury, in boxing terms, is a mismatch.

                  I tell you Marciano's fights were considered boxing mismatches

                  Now you are telling me Marciano fought better men than Wilder has as if that detracts from me claiming Marciano's fights were boxing mismatches.

                  I can assure you, you putting over Marciano's resume does not help your argument son.
                  A quick glance at Marciano's record will show he fought stiff opposition after 20 fights. Roland LaStarza 37-0.... of course boxing was different then, you had guys fighting continuously and fighting weeks apart, so even the guys on Marciano's record that had a lot of losses were actually tough and hard to beat.

                  Look at Wilder's record and you will find it's similar (if you don't take into account the era and how boxing was at that time). Wilder has fought guys on short notice as well but they are even worse!

                  BTW, I said THIS fight is a mismatch in boxing terms and your immediate response is to bring up a fighter from the 50's..... lol

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                  • Vinnykin
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by IrishDiscussion
                    The times Fury has stood in combat range with Wilder leading up to the bout, I noticed he favored the southpaw stance when he got in range to throw a punch. I wonder though, if Fury will use his weight with Wilder on the ropes. If Fury picks angles and lands a corkscrew at range, Wilder will clinch more than likely rather than run and try to survive that way. Fury will probably headbutt or low blow, and the rest will be history. I expect quality Fury infighting - better than before. Im assuming he picked up on tips from Vianello, one of his big bear sparring partner who is a master at punching up close. He's like a hw porter.
                    I have said a few times on here that Fury will fight inside a lot and that could be his way to victory.

                    Fury wins outside, but that gives Wilder a chance to get his right hand off. If Fury clinches and starts punching inside and getting off combo's..... welcome to Fury land lol

                    Never knew much about Vianello to be honest, but I'll take your word for it.

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                    • Vinnykin
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita
                      I actually think that be should stay comfortable and natural in a conventional stance. Against a twitchy, instinctive power puncher like Wilder, Fury needs to stay alert and if he isnt capable of fighting instinctively as a southpaw,he could get caught and the right hand is southpaw’s ******nite.

                      Fury needs to fight in a style that’s most comfortable to him cuz he needs to box perfectly to beat wilder.
                      But what is fighting comfortably for Fury? that's what I'm trying to figure out....

                      The right hand is ******nite to a southpaw, yes, if you leave yourself open and fight offensively like Pacquaio. If you're defensive and control distance it's literally impossible to land the right without over-committing.

                      Fury has the height and reach advantage and can control distance, he's also got quick feet. If he fights southpaw and defensively then Wilder will not get the right off at all... IMO.

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