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Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Postso beating 37 yr old Vernon Forrest, who had already lost twice to Ricardo Mayorga and then getting dominated in the rematch is better than beating a prime Daniel jacobs? You sure you wanna stick with that? And Broner is the definition of how being a champion in multiple weight classes is a joke now. His best win was a split decision over Paulie Malignaggi (who just came off a controversial win over cano). That's not as bad as taking a belt from fielding and calling yourself a champ in another division, but it's still laughable. If ggg and Broner were both on a hall of fame ballot and only 1 could get in, ggg would be picked over broner every single time. You're really saying some absurd s*** to push your agenda. Do me a favor, why don't you write into breads mailbag on this site and make those 2 comments and see what he tells you. I could use a good laugh.
yes, Forrest > Jacobs
there is no question about that
Mora beat a higher caliber opponent
now do you wish that Golovkin had taken some of the fights he avoided?
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Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Postfacial bruising is now a criteria for scoring a fight? Lmaooo. You truly are a novice. the fact that you're saying ggg was beaten up very badly further exposes you as a delusional fan boy who just gets upset that others won't buy into your nonsense that Canelo has beaten ggg either time without justified controversy. In one post you admit that Canelo doesn't seperate himself from other fighters during the fights and in the next you say he beat up ggg "very very badly"? So which is it? You clearly haven't been watching boxing long enough to know what a real beat down is. If you'd like, I could recommend some fights to watch so that you could enhance your knowledge. If Winning a fight on the scorecards by 1 round, not winning on 36 of the 38 press row scorecards is your idea of beating someone up very very badly, along with being outlanded in 18 of 24 rounds, then you're watching the wrong sport and should stick to lesser contact sports such as woman's volleyball. In the meantime, speaking of next fights, enjoy watching Canelo fight a paper champion in his next fight who was ko'd in 1 round by an actual champion. But don't worry, he'll step it up in May when he challenges ggg leftover David lemieux.
so..... the winner is the guy who could not get his game going, and got his face all lumped up?
that sounds fkn ******ed
the winner is obviously the other guy..... the guy who COULD get his game going, and DID NOT get his face all lumped up
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
so..... the winner is the guy who could not get his game going, and got his face all lumped up?
that sounds fkn ******ed
the winner is obviously the other guy..... the guy who COULD get his game going, and DID NOT get his face all lumped up
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Postyes, Forrest > Jacobs
there is no question about that
Mora beat a higher caliber opponent
now do you wish that Golovkin had taken some of the fights he avoided?
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Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Postthat's the worst description of fight criteria I've ever heard. You argued that Canelo won the first fight and he clearly couldnt get his game going. He was bouncing from rope to rope getting continously out worked. In the rematch, just because ggg circled Canelo you think he couldn't get it going? He was controlling canelo all night with the jab and following up with power shots as well. You clearly don't know what constitutes a power punch so you argue that Canelo landed soooo many more power shots, but the truth is, he was out worked, he was the only one who was hurt in the fight, and he was the one fading in the championship rounds.
no, I am arguing that pitty-pat jabs are not valid scoring criteria
neither is being timid, and being reluctant to commit
* clean hard punching
* effective aggression
* ring generalship
* defence
he kept them hands at home when he realized how sharp Canelo was, and he did very little to deter Canelo..... which is why his face got pushed in
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Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Postthat's the worst description of fight criteria I've ever heard. You argued that Canelo won the first fight and he clearly couldnt get his game going. He was bouncing from rope to rope getting continously out worked. In the rematch, just because ggg circled Canelo you think he couldn't get it going? He was controlling canelo all night with the jab and following up with power shots as well. You clearly don't know what constitutes a power punch so you argue that Canelo landed soooo many more power shots, but the truth is, he was out worked, he was the only one who was hurt in the fight, and he was the one fading in the championship rounds.
I agree with the premise that you cannot judge a fight based solely on facial damage.....
sure ^^.....
but in that fight, it was telling.....
the reason why is, MOST fans are talking utter fkn BOLLOCKS, and have no idea how to score a professional boxing match
* clean hard punching
* effective aggression
* ring generalship
* defence
if anyone actually thinks that landing a few more pitty-pat/pushed jabs counts as "clean hard punching" and "effective aggression"..... then they should take a look at Golovkin's face after the fight
based on the ONLY (weak) argument for Golovkin..... facial damage is never the final argument, but it was telling in the context of how that fight unfolded
he got dished up with plenty of BETTER, HARDER, EYE-CATCHING, JUDGE-FRIENDLY punches..... and Gennady's face attested to that fact
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Postno, I am arguing that pitty-pat jabs are not valid scoring criteria
neither is being timid, and being reluctant to commit
Sanchez wanted Golovkin to fight Canelo, but Jabkin was limited to the performance that we all saw
he kept them hands at home when he realized how sharp Canelo was, and he did very little to deter Canelo..... which is why his face got pushed in
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Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Postyour comment of pitty pat jabs" and trying to minimize jabs as an effective punch further proves you've never been in the ring. As does your comment that ggg "kept his hands at home" when he threw 250 more punches than Canelo. He also not only landed over 100 jabs, he also landed over 100 power punches. So your fake narrative trying to make it seem that ggg fought passively is exposed as untrue.
no, it proves you wouldn't have a fkn clue how to score a fight
show me where pitty-pat jabs are valid scoring criteria.....
* clean hard punching
* effective aggression
* ring generalship
* defence
where was all that vaunted " cutting off the ring "..... ?
where was the hunting/trapping..... ?
where was all that " breaking his opponent down "..... ?
one guy fought his fight, and the other guy did not
Golovkin got his face tattooed, because he couldn't do a damn thing to stop it from happening
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Postno, it proves you wouldn't have a fkn clue how to score a fight
show me where pitty-pat jabs are valid scoring criteria.....
where was all that vaunted bodywork..... ?
where was all that vaunted " cutting off the ring "..... ?
where was the hunting/trapping..... ?
where was all that " breaking his opponent down "..... ?
one guy fought his fight, and the other guy did not
Golovkin got his face tattooed, because he couldn't do a damn thing to stop it from happening
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