Comments Thread For: Filip Hrgovic vs. Ytalo Perea on December 8t in Zagreb

[Vinnykin]

Prospects aren't ranked in top 10 in sanctioning bodies. Joyce is a top 10 guy ,all the interviews ive seen no boxing pundit considers him a prospect due to his experience too.

What org has him in the top 10? also, literally zero people in boxing have Joyce as a top ten heavyweight, that's ludicrous if they do.

Joyce has not fought a top 50 fighter yet. He's scheduled to take on a guy outside the top 100, he's had 6 fights in the pro ranks which is what he is a prospect in, not his amateur experience. He's not Lomachenko going straight into title fights after a stellar amateur career.

Until he fights a guy in the top 10 he will be a prospect. He's gaining experience and will get better, he's a prospect with 6 fights.

[Vinnykin]

First of all Joyce is 33 years old, you said he's young like Dubois who's 21, you must be deluded. Second, Joyce is ranked in top 15 so he is a contender. Doesn't matter how you spin it kid, Joyce is not a prospect. Glad I could educate you

So I accidentally do not add (except Joyce) after saying young heavyweights, still doesn't change the fact he's a 6 fight novice in the pro game with no wins over a top 50 opponent yet.

Joyce is a prospect to get to the top 10 of the division, probably after another 10 fights.

I doubt you have ever educated any one on here.... you just have a different understanding on what a pro prospect is. You can't argue the definition though, that's what you can't do.

Is Joyce a prospect to get to the top of the division?

Is he prospected to do so?

If you answer yes to either of those he's a prospect lol

[asgarth]

What org has him in the top 10? also, literally zero people in boxing have Joyce as a top ten heavyweight, that's ludicrous if they do.

Joyce has not fought a top 50 fighter yet. He's scheduled to take on a guy outside the top 100, he's had 6 fights in the pro ranks which is what he is a prospect in, not his amateur experience. He's not Lomachenko going straight into title fights after a stellar amateur career.

Until he fights a guy in the top 10 he will be a prospect. He's gaining experience and will get better, he's a prospect with 6 fights.

Hrgovic is less of an prospect than joyce. He beat amir mansour who already counts as a tough gatekeeper even though he is pretty old. Mansour is the most proven guy that any of the prospects have beat.

Joyce is a prospect until he at least beats either a gatekeeper or a fringe contender. His best win is kiladze or thomas lol.

[DuckAdonis]

hrgovic is the heavyweight blue chip prospect along with ajagba that came out of Rio 2016 Olympics..he'll beat yoka now in the pros,Joyce is a tougher fight

Yoka destroyed the **** out of Dave Allen tho...did way better than Ortiz. I'm not so sure of that

[Boksfan]

So I accidentally do not add (except Joyce) after saying young heavyweights, still doesn't change the fact he's a 6 fight novice in the pro game with no wins over a top 50 opponent yet.

Joyce is a prospect to get to the top 10 of the division, probably after another 10 fights.

I doubt you have ever educated any one on here.... you just have a different understanding on what a pro prospect is. You can't argue the definition though, that's what you can't do.

Is Joyce a prospect to get to the top of the division?

Is he prospected to do so?

If you answer yes to either of those he's a prospect lol

You keep embarrassing yourself, it's pathetic really just take the L and stop digging the hole for yourself boy haha some fool gonna tell me top 15 boxer is a prospect bytch please

[REDEEMER]

What org has him in the top 10? also, literally zero people in boxing have Joyce as a top ten heavyweight, that's ludicrous if they do.

Joyce has not fought a top 50 fighter yet. He's scheduled to take on a guy outside the top 100, he's had 6 fights in the pro ranks which is what he is a prospect in, not his amateur experience. He's not Lomachenko going straight into title fights after a stellar amateur career.

Until he fights a guy in the top 10 he will be a prospect. He's gaining experience and will get better, he's a prospect with 6 fights.

If you don't know the answer to these questions there's no need to go further, you've already built a brick wall and will argue regardless ,why waste time on it . no one sees Joyce as a prospect, its why his own team want guys inside the top 10 where Joyce is himself ranked and you didn't even know that so no need to discuss further here.

[REDEEMER]

Hrgovic is less of an prospect than joyce. He beat amir mansour who already counts as a tough gatekeeper even though he is pretty old. Mansour is the most proven guy that any of the prospects have beat.

Joyce is a prospect until he at least beats either a gatekeeper or a fringe contender. His best win is kiladze or thomas lol.

Hrgovic is less then a prospect then Joyce who has an actual win over Hrgovic and has gained low tier titles ? makes sense basing it on a late 40's undersized fighter like Mansour way past his peak years now. . Ha

[BigZ44]

Not a terrible fight, but a step down from Mansour. Next fight needs to be against a legit European level dude

[asgarth]

Hrgovic is less then a prospect then Joyce who has an actual win over Hrgovic and has gained low tier titles ? makes sense basing it on a late 40's undersized fighter like Mansour way past his peak years now. . Ha

What does amateur accomplishment have to do whether he is a prospect or not?

What does winnng low tier titles have to do with anything? No one values those titles.

A prospect advances to the next stage by who he has beaten or at least faced.

I can go boxrec warrior on you and say that hrgovic is ranked 16th and joyce sits at around 42.

Why do u put so much emphasis on the abc rankings? Everyone knowa that those are garbage. Boxrec has his faults but their rankings are way more accurate than the abc rankings.

Joyce is #10 in the wba ranking, but how legit can those rankings be when they have charr as a regular champ and fres oquendo, bognan dinu and otto wallin in the top10.

Comparing their professional records, I dont see anyone from Joyce resume beating even an ancient mansour.

[juggernaut666]

What does amateur accomplishment have to do whether he is a prospect or not?

What does winnng low tier titles have to do with anything? No one values those titles.

A prospect advances to the next stage by who he has beaten or at least faced.

I can go boxrec warrior on you and say that hrgovic is ranked 16th and joyce sits at around 42.

Why do u put so much emphasis on the abc rankings? Everyone knowa that those are garbage. Boxrec has his faults but their rankings are way more accurate than the abc rankings.

Joyce is #10 in the wba ranking, but how legit can those rankings be when they have charr as a regular champ and fres oquendo, bognan dinu and otto wallin in the top10.

Comparing their professional records, I dont see anyone from Joyce resume beating even an ancient mansour.

Joyce has advanced to the next stage he's a U.K champion, and hes ranked in top spot ,these are facts.

Hrgovic is not less of a prospect bc he is one.

You cannot be ranked in top 10 and be a prospect so boxrec is ****** to use and argue over it..