PBC is getting a lot of flack for this?

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  • Phenom
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    #41
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    Sure there is multiple reasons boxing is niche, but being the only sport that doesn't listen to its fans is a pretty huge one.

    And every year the best play each other to end the season. The got everything locked in for that to happen. Boxing just keeps half assing us for years at a time before giving us the big fight in the division. WBSS is the best thing to happen to boxing in decades in my book. I just hope they keep doing 3, or dare I wish more, divisions every year.
    WBSS doesn’t have the big names though that's why they are making tournament in the same division

    Super six showed why Tournaments doesn't work at high level short schedule people dropping out finding replacement on short notice etc...

    Best you can hope for is 4 man tournament if you want the big names of the sport to be involved

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #42
      Originally posted by Phenom
      WBSS doesn’t have the big names though that's why they are making tournament in the same division
      They are doing pretty f#cking good if you ask me. I think in their 5 tournament brackets so far over two years they had no less than 5 indie top 10 ranked guys in any of their brackets.

      2017-2018
      200lbs = 6 TBRB top ten guys, including #1 & #2
      168lbs = 5 TBRB top ten guys

      2018-2019
      200lbs = 6 TBRB top ten guys, including 5 of the top 7
      140lbs = 5 TBRB top ten guys, including #1 & #2
      118lbs = 5 TBRB top ten guys, including 4 of the top 5

      These are all pretty sick tournaments if you ask me. If they catch on & get more money they have the potential to do this in any division. Right now I think they are ways off on doing 147 & HW, but I don't think they will always be outta the question if things keep moving like they're moving. Politics is their biggest enemy in making any high level tournament in any division besides 147 & HW for 2019-2020.

      Super six showed why Tournaments doesn't work at high level short schedule people dropping out finding replacement on short notice etc...
      In fairness the Super Six was ******ed. You can't do a round robin format in boxing. It was easily the silliest tournament format I've seen.

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      • Chuckguy
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        #43
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Oh God. That reddit article. Where is Mitchell Kane, big dunny, killakaki and the rest?

        I remember Laces Up saying “they lost 500 million!” like the investors were playing short on a time buy

        Matter of fact, I was arguing with people on here months ago who said Fox would never give them a deal.
        I honestly don’t doubt they lost money (the investors) but Al is a guy that knows how to get it done

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        • DJrabit
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          #44
          The porter fight is the only good fight. Uzcatequi is all right but instead of fighting Plant he should fight Truax. Guillen vs Truax no one wants to see that.

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          • Lion81
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            #45
            Originally posted by pillowfists98
            I just don't like that PBC is starting to do PPV's now. PPV has been terrible for the sport. I hoped that Canelo going to DAZN would end PPV boxing in the US but I was wrong.
            Yea i was bummed to see PBC not dumping the model.

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            • BoxingIsGreat
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              #46
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              Thats boxings problem in general, but PBC is pro level at it, it keeps edging & just loses its erection w/o ever cumming after awhile lol.

              PBC gots a ******ed roster yet they aren't even trying to make the big fights as often as they could almost FOUR years in. Im tired of this patience is a virtue bs.

              Boxing is the only sport that does this backwards sh^t that keeps the sport at a niche level cuz casuals don't wanna watch all these bs matchups where the favorite is -1000 or higher to win.
              That's exactly how I feel about Gervonta's inactivity. Total BS.

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              • Illmatic94
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                #47
                I don't have a problem with none of the fights announced. but to each his own i guess

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                • IMDAZED
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                  Sure there is multiple reasons boxing is niche, but being the only sport that doesn't listen to its fans is a pretty huge one.

                  And every year the best play each other to end the season. The got everything locked in for that to happen. Boxing just keeps half assing us for years at a time before giving us the big fight in the division. WBSS is the best thing to happen to boxing in decades in my book. I just hope they keep doing 3, or dare I wish more, divisions every year.
                  NFL craps on fans yearly. I can’t think of a sport where fan requests are listened to. Maybe UFC which is a combat league and pays the workers much less.

                  I really don’t think the issue is listening to fans. What hurt boxing was it getting removed from network television. Even then there was PPV (closed circuit, etc). But once it left network TV entirely, that was the death blow.

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Chuckguy
                    I honestly don’t doubt they lost money (the investors) but Al is a guy that knows how to get it done
                    Dude, when you invest money you don’t quantify it as a loss in the middle of the investment. Court documents show Haymon spent about $200-300 mil, if that. He received about $400-600m.

                    Showtime has probably been paying him about $3m a fight for the past three years. And now he has two network deals. So the loss thing is silly. Actually, it was silly to begin with because these investors knew a time buy doesn’t generate a return. So they were obviously playing the long game and now they’re about to reap the rewards.

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                    • Jsmooth9876
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                      Oh I get it, let's blame PBC.

                      Where were you when BJS blatantly ducked Daniel Jacobs? You were quiet as a whore in Church. Now that BJS attempted to fight someone worth a damn on DAZN now you're praising the Lord with special thanks to your savior Eddie Hearn.

                      And lol at the the general public clamoring for Usyk vs Bellew

                      Jesus you guys are predictable... Wash and repeat the same routine for years
                      Why do you keep taking me off ignore yo respond to me.

                      You're a jerkoff, put me back on ignore please.

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