I hate to break it to you guys, but there's several HWs that will beat Usyk

**Earl-Hickey** · 11-11-2018, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by Chollo Vista

He's a very good fighter, don't get me wrong... But he comes across to me as very vulnerable. The following HWs beat him:

1. Wilder - Usyk gets hit a ton by that straight right... No more than 6-8 rounds

2. Joshua - Too big, too strong. Just the right amount of timing and agility... No more than 5-6 rounds

3. Tyson Fury - Too awkward, long and agile with just a touch of respectable power.

4. Big Baby Miller - too big. Will seek and destroy. He will take Usyk's power and wear him down

Luis Ortiz/Alexander Povetkin - not sure quite yet on how this fight plays out. It would be very competitive, with each guy having their time. This is really a 50/50

Usyk will beat the lower level smaller HWs like Jennings, Whyte, Chisora, Ruiz Jr, etc... He'll also beat some like Dominic Breazeale.

Heard it here first

I agree, I think povetkin and ortiz are better than a 50% shot though as long as they don't slack off as they sometimes do.

**sunny31** · 11-11-2018, 08:13 AM

I've just made a similar post in another thread, so agree with most of that. Stylistically he's a guy who prefers boxing off the back foot, problem with this is the natural size and dimensions he is giving up.

**MDPopescu** · 11-11-2018, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by Chollo Vista

He's a very good fighter, don't get me wrong... But he comes across to me as very vulnerable. The following HWs beat him:

1. Wilder - Usyk gets hit a ton by that straight right... No more than 6-8 rounds

2. Joshua - Too big, too strong. Just the right amount of timing and agility... No more than 5-6 rounds

3. Tyson Fury - Too awkward, long and agile with just a touch of respectable power.

4. Big Baby Miller - too big. Will seek and destroy. He will take Usyk's power and wear him down

Luis Ortiz/Alexander Povetkin - not sure quite yet on how this fight plays out. It would be very competitive, with each guy having their time. This is really a 50/50

Usyk will beat the lower level smaller HWs like Jennings, Whyte, Chisora, Ruiz Jr, etc... He'll also beat some like Dominic Breazeale.

Heard it here first

... everybody with a brain would have to approve that the "giants" in the division would beat Usyk...

... but I don't know if Miller, Ortiz, and Povetkin would...

**ShamrockXpress** · 11-11-2018, 09:12 AM

Miller looked like he was going to have a heart attact after 2 rounds, no way he beats uysk. Fatigue induced stoppage is the only outcome i see there.

I think a prime fury would give him fits with his unorthodox style but i dont think well ever see a prime fury again.

Joshua is too tight and has serious stamina issues and wilder is too clumsy.

Unless uysk loses his speed and stamina moving up i fancy his chances against both.

Were not talking prime lennox lewis here. Were talking aj and wilder.

**boliodogs** · 11-11-2018, 10:02 AM

You have no idea how those fights would go. You are just guessing and your guess cold be way off. Read the boxing scene top headlines. Bellew says Usyk can beat the heavyweights. Usyk only has to weigh 200 pounds or less at the weigh in. He probably gains the usual 12 to 18 pounds by fight night and enters the ring at maybe 215 pounds. He is a 6 foot 3 inch 215-220 pound heavyweight. Ali was 210 pounds when he won the title. Liston and Foreman weighed 214 pounds when they won the title. Usyk is plenty big enough to be heavyweight champ and he has the speed, skill, defense, punching power and chin to be the champ. He beat huge heavyweights in the amateurs and he can do it in the pros too. Cunningham dropped Fury hard for a 7 count and Usyk is much better than Cunningham and a harder puncher. AJ did not out point Parker by much and Usyk is so much more skillful than Parker. Wilder is a lousy boxer who lets you know what's coming. Wilder has been well behind on points several times when he scored a KO. Usyk could outbox Wilder and AJ and if he hits them the way he hit Bellew he could hurt them. I am not saying he beats them. I am saying he has a solid chance to beat them and nobody knows for sure how these fights would go until these fights actually happen. They have real fights to see who really is the best and not just guess at it like you are doing.

**boliodogs** · 11-11-2018, 10:08 AM

Usyk throws an average of 70 punches a round. AJ and Wilder average about 35 punches a round. Usyk's superior stamina and punch output would work in his favor.

**Dean_Razorback** · 11-11-2018, 10:14 AM

some posters from this forum are so insecure. and they are always the same users

**JWHardin** · 11-11-2018, 10:52 AM

It's pretty hard to judge based on beating a semi-shot Bellew, who wasn't great even in his prime. Breidis gave Usyk a much better fight than Bellew. Anyone can look good for a few rounds.

Usyk's size won't be a factor if he boxes smart and utilizes his skills the best he can. He is the same size as Ali, but not in the same class as far as skill.

I would like to see him vs Ortiz or Parker to start with, but any of the top 10 guys would be good fights. We'll see how he reacts to taking a few bombs from the big hitters.

**Luilun** · 11-11-2018, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by Chollo Vista

He's a very good fighter, don't get me wrong... But he comes across to me as very vulnerable. The following HWs beat him:

1. Wilder - Usyk gets hit a ton by that straight right... No more than 6-8 rounds

2. Joshua - Too big, too strong. Just the right amount of timing and agility... No more than 5-6 rounds

3. Tyson Fury - Too awkward, long and agile with just a touch of respectable power.

4. Big Baby Miller - too big. Will seek and destroy. He will take Usyk's power and wear him down

Luis Ortiz/Alexander Povetkin - not sure quite yet on how this fight plays out. It would be very competitive, with each guy having their time. This is really a 50/50

Usyk will beat the lower level smaller HWs like Jennings, Whyte, Chisora, Ruiz Jr, etc... He'll also beat some like Dominic Breazeale.

Heard it here first

Ortiz has no stamina unless he's on steroids thats why he was taking steroids in that first Wilder fight cause he knows with youthful stamina he beats Wilder

I hate to break it to you guys, but there's several HWs that will beat Usyk