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Bivol walks around at 190 or lower. Have to imagine Canelo walks around at least 185. Bivol can make super middleweight easily. Canelo is fighting at super middleweight his next fight.
Canelo is with DAZN. DAZN is rumored to maybe be the most likely destination for Dmitry Bivol.
Sounds like the perfect fight for next May if you ask me. The thing is, people will say there are other opponents for Canelo more popular than Bivol. My question that I almost made another topic about is, if DAZN only cares about subscribers, not PPV sales, then why are they so concerned with the popular fighters? Why not be more concerned with actual fights people will subscrie to see? Meaning, like, if Chocolatito and Rigondeaux had fought 5 years ago at 118, the casual sports fan would not have given a ****, but there would have been like 200,000 or more hardcore fans who would have bought a subscription to something like DAZN just to see this special little man's fight.
And I believe that concept would be even more true with weight combo fights. Like, okay, let's remember GGG and Sergey Kovalev like the first 6 months they came to the U.S. No one knew who they were, both were looking to make a name for themselves, and they couldn't find anyone to fight them. Now if you had the idea, let's make GGG vs Kovalev on PPV, it would be impossible because they had no fanbase in the U.S. But can you imagine how many subscriptions from the hardcore fans something like DAZN would have gotten if they put on prime GGG vs prime Sergey Kovalev? And because it's about subscriptions, not sales, they could have actually afforded to offer them the money to get them interested to do it.
In other words, it's about offering the best content, not the most popular names. DAZN is like netflix. It's just about having the best movies, the best shows, not the most popular actors. No one knew anyone in Game of Thrones before it started except Sean Bean. So why isn't DAZN doing this? Canelo vs Bivol would only sell 500k PPV buys in the U.S. on PPV, but on DAZN, can you imagine how many GGG fans spurned by Canelo's ducking would pay to see Canelo get beaten by an actual top prime opponent who at least fights offensively like GGG and is willing to fight anyone?
That's what I dont get about DAZN so far. Those fights like Canelo vs Bivol, the fights fans never thought were possible, the fights that are only possible because of DAZN, those are the fights that give DAZN value, not Canelo vs the other middleweights or any other normal fight fans could see anywhere else. Bivol vs Canelo could be DAZN's Game of Thrones, and it doesn't matter if Bivol doesn't have big name recognition. The fight will get recognition immediately by word of mouth, plus they can, you know, promote it.
I mean just ask yourself, if you could only subscribe to one service, and one service was offering fights like Jacobs vs Andrade, Canelo vs BJS, Lomachenko vs Linares, Spence vs Thurman, Beterbiev vs Gvozdyk, and so on, but the other was offering Bivol vs Charlo at 168, GGG vs Callum Smith at 168, Canelo vs Kovalev at 174 catch weight, Lomachenko vs Prograis at 138, Spence vs Lara at 154, Beterbiev vs Usyk at 198 catch weight, and so on, which would you buy? I don't think there's even any question. DAZN is in a position to give fans fantasy fights, not just the normal, accepted popularity fights based on the U.S. PPV model of only including boxers whose names are already very well known. What I'm saying is, fans will pay more for fantasy fights, so long as there is a logic in them, where one of the opponents is unknown, than they will for normal fights between two known names, because the "fantasy" aspect of these fantasy fights will get the hardcore fans so excited, they will spread by word of mouth to the casuals who the unknown name is, and why the fight is so incredible, and then that "unknown" name will quickly become known.
So I hope we see DAZN and these streaming services start taking advantage of the fact they are streaming services, not PPV channels, to start pushing the best fights possible, regardless of how well known the boxers are, rather than keep pushing the "biggest" fights. We're already paying for the subscription, why should we care about how "big" a fight is when the subscription is the same size regardless every month? All we care about is how good the fights are, and whether the matchups are ones we want to see the most or not. And as I believe I demonstrated, the ones we want to see the most are ones like Bivol vs Canelo over Canelo vs BJS or any middleweight, even though Bivol might be less known on average than BJS, right? In fact I'd want to see that ten times more, it's not even close. And same goes for many other fights like that. Now if Canelo walked around at a much lesser weight than Bivol, I wouldn't, but because I think it's more a case of Canelo simply draining a lot more weight than Bivol does even though they both walk around at similar weights, that's why I would like to see DAZN correct for that difference and pit them against each other at 168 where Canelo is fighting next anyway.
Canelo is with DAZN. DAZN is rumored to maybe be the most likely destination for Dmitry Bivol.
Sounds like the perfect fight for next May if you ask me. The thing is, people will say there are other opponents for Canelo more popular than Bivol. My question that I almost made another topic about is, if DAZN only cares about subscribers, not PPV sales, then why are they so concerned with the popular fighters? Why not be more concerned with actual fights people will subscrie to see? Meaning, like, if Chocolatito and Rigondeaux had fought 5 years ago at 118, the casual sports fan would not have given a ****, but there would have been like 200,000 or more hardcore fans who would have bought a subscription to something like DAZN just to see this special little man's fight.
And I believe that concept would be even more true with weight combo fights. Like, okay, let's remember GGG and Sergey Kovalev like the first 6 months they came to the U.S. No one knew who they were, both were looking to make a name for themselves, and they couldn't find anyone to fight them. Now if you had the idea, let's make GGG vs Kovalev on PPV, it would be impossible because they had no fanbase in the U.S. But can you imagine how many subscriptions from the hardcore fans something like DAZN would have gotten if they put on prime GGG vs prime Sergey Kovalev? And because it's about subscriptions, not sales, they could have actually afforded to offer them the money to get them interested to do it.
In other words, it's about offering the best content, not the most popular names. DAZN is like netflix. It's just about having the best movies, the best shows, not the most popular actors. No one knew anyone in Game of Thrones before it started except Sean Bean. So why isn't DAZN doing this? Canelo vs Bivol would only sell 500k PPV buys in the U.S. on PPV, but on DAZN, can you imagine how many GGG fans spurned by Canelo's ducking would pay to see Canelo get beaten by an actual top prime opponent who at least fights offensively like GGG and is willing to fight anyone?
That's what I dont get about DAZN so far. Those fights like Canelo vs Bivol, the fights fans never thought were possible, the fights that are only possible because of DAZN, those are the fights that give DAZN value, not Canelo vs the other middleweights or any other normal fight fans could see anywhere else. Bivol vs Canelo could be DAZN's Game of Thrones, and it doesn't matter if Bivol doesn't have big name recognition. The fight will get recognition immediately by word of mouth, plus they can, you know, promote it.
I mean just ask yourself, if you could only subscribe to one service, and one service was offering fights like Jacobs vs Andrade, Canelo vs BJS, Lomachenko vs Linares, Spence vs Thurman, Beterbiev vs Gvozdyk, and so on, but the other was offering Bivol vs Charlo at 168, GGG vs Callum Smith at 168, Canelo vs Kovalev at 174 catch weight, Lomachenko vs Prograis at 138, Spence vs Lara at 154, Beterbiev vs Usyk at 198 catch weight, and so on, which would you buy? I don't think there's even any question. DAZN is in a position to give fans fantasy fights, not just the normal, accepted popularity fights based on the U.S. PPV model of only including boxers whose names are already very well known. What I'm saying is, fans will pay more for fantasy fights, so long as there is a logic in them, where one of the opponents is unknown, than they will for normal fights between two known names, because the "fantasy" aspect of these fantasy fights will get the hardcore fans so excited, they will spread by word of mouth to the casuals who the unknown name is, and why the fight is so incredible, and then that "unknown" name will quickly become known.
So I hope we see DAZN and these streaming services start taking advantage of the fact they are streaming services, not PPV channels, to start pushing the best fights possible, regardless of how well known the boxers are, rather than keep pushing the "biggest" fights. We're already paying for the subscription, why should we care about how "big" a fight is when the subscription is the same size regardless every month? All we care about is how good the fights are, and whether the matchups are ones we want to see the most or not. And as I believe I demonstrated, the ones we want to see the most are ones like Bivol vs Canelo over Canelo vs BJS or any middleweight, even though Bivol might be less known on average than BJS, right? In fact I'd want to see that ten times more, it's not even close. And same goes for many other fights like that. Now if Canelo walked around at a much lesser weight than Bivol, I wouldn't, but because I think it's more a case of Canelo simply draining a lot more weight than Bivol does even though they both walk around at similar weights, that's why I would like to see DAZN correct for that difference and pit them against each other at 168 where Canelo is fighting next anyway.
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