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Originally posted by Zaryu View PostBut the sport becomes less reachable for those with a smaller budget. If the sport is featured by only one or two networks I think more people would be willing to pay for boxing. The sport, along with boxers, would be more likely to thrive.
But idk that people are paying more now vs then. You previously had to have HBO & Showtime + $60-$80 twice a year. No you just need $15/mo (about what HBO cost iirc) & Showtime + $60-$80 for PPV.
The only thing one could argue is changing the budget for boxing fans right now is PBC doing a bunch of PPV's it would seem with 3+ scheduled for 2019.
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Originally posted by Real boxer View PostFacebook is a phone app as well just as Apple Music and Spotify. So why is DAZN hard to use while those other apps have “ease of access”?
Two questions nobody has been able to ask
1. If this is the wave why aren't other sports jumping to do it? Why would a company like WWE who has their own network and streaming app, get a deal on broadcast TV? Why hasn't ESPN moved the NBA/NFL/MLB/NHL games exclusively to the app? Hell they haven't even moved those games to the apps at all.
2. How is it a good thing putting a niche sport on a niche app which offers nothing but boxing and has a smaller audience than premium cable channels which caused boxing to become a niche sport?Last edited by Motorcity Cobra; 11-04-2018, 02:22 PM.
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We all agreed that moving boxing from broadcast tv to the future of tv at the time (premium cable) caused boxing to fall out of the mainstream.
So how is moving a niche sport to a niche app with less subs than premium cable going to grow the sport? This line of thinking has no logic behind it. And you know it's not the wave because aint no other sport doing this. There are sports with their own streaming services who are still getting broadcast TV deals.
And if this was being done in the UK these same people praising it in the US would be pissed.
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Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View PostWhat TV or phone now a days don't come with Netflix already installed?
The problem is ya'll fail to understand ease of access. That's why we went from coding pages on Myspace to simply clicking a button on Facebook to do the same thing. Or searching for files on Napster, making sure it was the correct file and not a virus, to simply clicking on a button on apple music/spotify.
Ease of access. Casual fans aren't going to go out of their way to find boxing
I just went on the DAZN USA site and the app is available on pretty much 90% of the devices in use today.
You carry on though, Stan.
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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostFor better or worse I legit think that was a part of their strategy. Cuz if I'm the President of HBO Boxing at any point basically (cuz not like it was just a Peter Nelson thing) I'd have told the commentary team to talk about the fight not just the house fighter. Or I'd fired a mfer to get in a mfer who'd be talking about the fight & not the house fighter.
So that was a choice HBO & tactic they made that worked for a long ass time, but eventually the hardcores turned on them for their house fighter lean.
And I actually think they did the opposite of this with "bad guys" to make them more hated as well I'll add. Cuz I think HBO made an effort to make Tyson & Mayweather badder guys to entice fans who wanted to see them get beat. HBO did a lot towards giving Tyson & Mayweather so many hater fans I believe.
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Originally posted by sicko View PostEgos killed HBO for sure!
If Lampley or other commentators hurt the brand with their bs isn't NOT relevant, but the bigger problem was HBO not giving them enough money to compete with Showtime Boxing. And if HBO was legit invested in boxing once they saw the commentators being a problem they easily could have altered their strategy & hired new guys or made the old guys change tactics.
The cold hard reality for boxing fans is HBO quit caring about boxing & therefore quit giving money to HBO Boxing giving them less appeal to boxing fans leading to us seeing their last show in the next month or two.
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Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View PostWe all agreed that moving boxing from broadcast tv to the future of tv at the time (premium cable) caused boxing to fall out of the mainstream.
So how is moving a niche sport to a niche app with less subs than premium cable going to grow the sport? This line of thinking has no logic behind it.
I think they are just trying to get hardcore fans subbing in the near future (5+ years). This is a long game. Although I do think boxing in one place ultimately will make boxing more popular so 8-10 years down the line DAZN might have made boxing bigger if they've succeeded.
Basically I believe DAZN are doing Haymon's plan better than Haymon was is whats happening.
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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostLOL no it didn't. HBO killed HBO Boxing by giving them less money year in, year out for 2 decades.
If Lampley or other commentators hurt the brand with their bs isn't NOT relevant, but the bigger problem was HBO not giving them enough money to compete with Showtime Boxing. And if HBO was legit invested in boxing once they saw the commentators being a problem they easily could have altered their strategy & hired new guys or made the old guys change tactics.
The cold hard reality for boxing fans is HBO quit caring about boxing & therefore quit giving money to HBO Boxing giving them less appeal to boxing fans leading to us seeing their last show in the next month or two.
It goes beyond JUST LAMPLEY! With Nelson not being a boxing guy I wouldn't be shocked if Lampley had Input as far as which fighters would be best on the Network and fighters styles and all that
This Industry is EGO Driven so how the hell can EGO NOT Play a ROLE!
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