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  • #41
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
    Of course he makes far more than most, but that doesn't mean he makes over $30 million. No way to make that kind of money without US PPV. PPV isn't expensive enough other places to make that kind of money.
    You clearly don’t understand how economics despite all your claims. In your own words because you like to throw it around like the troll that you are - “Your lying”.

    There is already a number of people who have broken it down for you ; but there is a reasonable chance he made over 30 million, reasonable because it isn’t certain from the information we have.

    US PPV will make big money if it has the right numbers but AJ is more global (120+ countries), for this particular fight made good money from both Russia and DAZN deal too then had 80k sales from Wembley, uk Ppv around 1.4 mil? (Revenue of £28 / $35 mil alone, won’t all have gone to AJ), then he has his own sponsorship and merchanise alongside.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Kezzer View Post
      You clearly don’t understand how economics despite all your claims. In your own words because you like to throw it around like the troll that you are - “Your lying”.

      There is already a number of people who have broken it down for you ; but there is a reasonable chance he made over 30 million, reasonable because it isn’t certain from the information we have.

      US PPV will make big money if it has the right numbers but AJ is more global (120+ countries), for this particular fight made good money from both Russia and DAZN deal too then had 80k sales from Wembley, uk Ppv around 1.4 mil? (Revenue of £28 / $35 mil alone, won’t all have gone to AJ), then he has his own sponsorship and merchanise alongside.
      AJ most lucrative fight to date is Wlad Klitchko which he made £15M we know that because K2 put up the numbers

      No way in hell AJ made anywhere close to 30M you have to be ****** to believe that

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Kezzer View Post
        There is already a number of people who have broken it down for you
        All of whom are inexperienced, uneducated amateurs who happen to be massive AJ fans.


        but there is a reasonable chance he made over 30 million
        No, there's no reasonable chance for him to have made over $30 million for the Povetkin fight. UK PPVs are too cheap for it to be possible.


        US PPV will make big money if it has the right numbers but AJ is more global (120+ countries)
        Lots of fights are shown in 120+ countries, so that doesn't mean anything. The UK is the only place doing PPV buys at a level of any note.


        for this particular fight made good money from both Russia and DAZN deal too then had 80k sales from Wembley, uk Ppv around 1.4 mil? (Revenue of £28 / $35 mil alone, won’t all have gone to AJ), then he has his own sponsorship and merchanise alongside.
        The PPV reportedly did 1.1 million. 19.95 pounds per buy = 28.5 million dollars.

        PPVs are usually a 50/50 split between the PPV provider and the promoter, but bigger stars can sometimes negotiate a slightly better cut. 60/40 in AJ's favor would be giving him the benefit of the doubt and I'm trying to be kind here, but that still cuts PPV revenue down to 17 million. You have undercard and marketing expenses as well as countless other expenses. Being kind, that would cut things down to 15 million. Then AJ has 80/20 split with Hearn, so AJ's cut from the PPV would be 12 million. A very impressive number, but nowhere near 30 million.

        You still have live gate, international TV, etc, but even being generous, it's going to be a dog fight to get to 20 million. Absolutely impossible to get to 30 million. Stick to being a fan. You're clueless about this stuff.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
          Impossible for him to have made over $30 million for the Povetkin fight when PPV prices in the UK are so low. The numbers don't add up.
          They did 1.1 million at 25dollars with a 10million gate, sponsorships, DAZN and international revenue, it's very likely that the final figure is 25-30million dollars.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
            They did 1.1 million at 25dollars with a 10million gate, sponsorships, DAZN and international revenue, it's very likely that the final figure is 25-30million dollars.
            As I just explained in another post, PPV is typically split 50/50 with the PPV provider. Sometimes a star as big as AJ can negotiate a slightly higher split. Being generous, let's say it was 60/40 in his favor, that would mean after expenses and paying Hearn's cut, he'd wind up with $12 million from the PPV. You have the gate, which again has a lot of expenses, plus Hearn's cut, you have int'l TV, etc. It's possible AJ winds up crossing the $20 million mark. But over $30 million? There's just no way. The numbers don't add up.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Phenom View Post
              AJ most lucrative fight to date is Wlad Klitchko which he made £15M we know that because K2 put up the numbers

              No way in hell AJ made anywhere close to 30M you have to be ****** to believe that
              that was a 50-50 split.

              AJ takes home 80%+ of his fights now.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                As I just explained in another post, PPV is typically split 50/50 with the PPV provider. Sometimes a star as big as AJ can negotiate a slightly higher split. Being generous, let's say it was 60/40 in his favor, that would mean after expenses and paying Hearn's cut, he'd wind up with $12 million from the PPV. You have the gate, which again has a lot of expenses, plus Hearn's cut, you have int'l TV, etc. It's possible AJ winds up crossing the $20 million mark. But over $30 million? There's just no way. The numbers don't add up.
                The figures of around 20million gbp makes sense to me with the 2million a fight reportedly from DAZN.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                  The figures of around 20million gbp makes sense to me with the 2million a fight reportedly from DAZN.
                  20 million pounds is the number Hearn likes to put out there, but promoters that make public claims about purses, attendance, PPV buys, etc are exaggerating 99.999% of the time.

                  But let's even say 20 million pounds is legit. That's 26 million dollars. Still not over 30 million dollars. Cook the egg however you want, you're not getting over 30 million dollars. Not a knock on AJ. Nobody is making over 30 million dollars other than Canelo. Only US PPV (or DAZN's attempt to kill US PPV) can generate over 30 million dollars for a fighter.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                    20 million pounds is the number Hearn likes to put out there, but promoters that make public claims about purses, attendance, PPV buys, etc are exaggerating 99.999% of the time.

                    But let's even say 20 million pounds is legit. That's 26 million dollars. Still not over 30 million dollars. Cook the egg however you want, you're not getting over 30 million dollars. Not a knock on AJ. Nobody is making over 30 million dollars other than Canelo. Only US PPV (or DAZN's attempt to kill US PPV) can generate over 30 million dollars for a fighter.
                    I'm not sure, he does have partnerships with beats, JDsports and underarmour.

                    I'm they don't come cheap.

                    I don't want to pretend like I know his numbers, but his fights generate in the region of 45-50million. What he takes from that is anybody's guess.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Phenom View Post
                      AJ most lucrative fight to date is Wlad Klitchko which he made £15M we know that because K2 put up the numbers

                      No way in hell AJ made anywhere close to 30M you have to be ****** to believe that
                      Gown would K2 know how much Joshua earned? That fight was based on 50/50 split between Joshua and klitschko on most aspect (tv and gate money). But since then Joshua hasn’t turned most fights into 80/20; increased his % he returns from both matchroom and % of return from the Ppv deal with sky sports. He also gets specific money from lucrative sponsorship , including Wembley who want to use him as a brand henceforth making a specific deal to tie him to their stadium, has done a deal with DAZN and global markets watching him have increased too.

                      Povetkin obviously wasn’t as big as a drawer as Klitschko but the Avenue ****** opened up since that fight are huge. As mentioned previously nothing is public domain to be certain but it is quite possible he made £20-25m which would be approx $30-35m.

                      Just to put some parts of that in context though. Let’s say he did a deal with Wilder to fight in April; some elements of that % split are likely to be made but others eg sponsorship etc will be on top. Therefore even if agree at say 65/35; the real likely number goes closer to 75/25 when all endorsements etc are added.

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