Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Jacobs-Charlo, Pacquiao, Andrade, Lewis

[Mindgames]

It's hardly a "ridiculous" assessment that Hagler made when he said Leonard never hurt him. For one thing, he didnt, and he was simply stating that Ray threw flashier shots that werent all quality. Whats wrong with that?

[pasawayako]

If only crawford and arum didn't avoid pac.

[Steven Mccowan]

Its a shame when ppl speak of 'slick' boxers they totally forget the originator WILLIE PEP. Too much racial ego and no pure thinking

[Bronx2245]

"GGG and/or Canelo need to see Charlo next year. Or if Canelo vacates again it’s a duck. But as we speak Charlo just moved up to 160. Charlo also should knock off a top 10 guy to force the fight. Andrade and Jacobs are black fighters who also haven’t fought Charlo….

I’m well aware of the racial injustices in sports. But I don’t think Charlo is being black balled because he’s black. Canelo has fought lots of black dudes. Lara, Trout, Kirkland, Mosley and Mayweather. GGG gave Monroe, Wade, Simon, Brook and Jacobs shots at his title. Those are black dudes too. The worst thing WE can do as a black community is make something racial that isn’t. Right now I think Charlo is a little too dangerous without the A side command power for GGG and Canelo to risk a fight with him. If they don’t give him a shot next year I will be the 1st to call it a duck. But right now it’s not a duck yet." - Breadman

Gotta love Breadman! Someone needs to ask "WHEN AND WHO WILL J-ROCK BE FIGHTING NEXT?"

[Shadoww702]

"You hit the nail on the head with Charlo 160. He is calm under fire. He does take a punch really well. He doesn’t shy away from contact. He holds his ground and he fires back when he’s cracked. He’s not hard to hit but he’s hard to hurt. From what I have seen his chin is more dependable than Jacobs’s.

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I think Charlo vs Jacobs is a great fight. I hope it happens. It’s really hard to pick in my opinion. It may come down to who is ON that night. I do think stylistically Charlo will give Jacobs big problems. But not because of anything you mentioned. Charlo has a real jab. And Jacobs doesn’t defend the jab well. SD was able to jab with Jacobs and really score with it. GGG won the fight with a basically a jab. If Charlo remembers to jab it will be tough on Jacobs because I think Charlo’s jab is faster and he’s taller than both GGG and SD."

Here's another take that I've posted many times here with regard to both fighters.

If you go back watch film on both of the Charlos, the first thing you notice is their poise under heat. They are probably the most patient/poised guys when their opponent is getting off on them (Canelo right there too). A friend asked me about them and I said that both were "violent and patient" with good punching fundamentals.

Jermell got away from this against Trout. He was visibly anxious to get a KO. That was the first time in years I've seen him fight that way. But if you go back to the Jackson or Hatley fights, he's beyond patient and everything he threw looked clean/sharp and dangerous.

Jermall simply doesn't have off nights from what I've seen. He's really sharp at all times. He's just a very focused fighter imo. Patiently waiting to cause harm.

Danny is simply a phenomenal athlete with good boxing pedigree and explosive athleticism. But as Bread pointed out, if you watch his film you see so many defensive lapses and lulls in his fights. He's not a guy who's focused for 12 rounds. It's just not in him imo. Still a danger to anybody.

I jad Jackson winning every round until his chin gave out. Charlo was getting out boxed badly.

[Shadoww702]

"GGG and/or Canelo need to see Charlo next year. Or if Canelo vacates again it’s a duck. But as we speak Charlo just moved up to 160. Charlo also should knock off a top 10 guy to force the fight. Andrade and Jacobs are black fighters who also haven’t fought Charlo….

I’m well aware of the racial injustices in sports. But I don’t think Charlo is being black balled because he’s black. Canelo has fought lots of black dudes. Lara, Trout, Kirkland, Mosley and Mayweather. GGG gave Monroe, Wade, Simon, Brook and Jacobs shots at his title. Those are black dudes too. The worst thing WE can do as a black community is make something racial that isn’t. Right now I think Charlo is a little too dangerous without the A side command power for GGG and Canelo to risk a fight with him. If they don’t give him a shot next year I will be the 1st to call it a duck. But right now it’s not a duck yet." - Breadman

Gotta love Breadman! Someone needs to ask "WHEN AND WHO WILL J-ROCK BE FIGHTING NEXT?"

I would like to see him vs. Jaime Munguia. Thats his best shot at a belt. Hurd is too big and so is Charlo. Lara would be a nightmare for him...

[Butch.McRae]

I jad Jackson winning every round until his chin gave out. Charlo was getting out boxed badly.

I agree. That fight shows how disciplined he can be. He just stuck to the plan and it paid off. He literally lost every round and still got the guy out of there lol That takes some confidence.

[Shadoww702]

I agree. That fight shows how disciplined he can be. He just stuck to the plan and it paid off. He literally lost every round and still got the guy out of there lol That takes some confidence.

Cant argue there. Hurd also amazes me how disciplined and relentless he can be. To come back and beat Lara like that. Cubans rarely lose when theyre ahead.

[Bronx2245]

I would like to see him vs. Jaime Munguia. Thats his best shot at a belt. Hurd is too big and so is Charlo. Lara would be a nightmare for him...

I thought J-Rock vs. Inoue was a lock? I saw dates for August 4th, then November 10th, but I don't know what's going on?

Julian Williams All but Set to Face Inoue in December, Eyes Charlo Rematch in the Future
October 29, 2018

Super-welterweight contender Julian Williams (25-1, 15 KOs) is all but set to be fighting undefeated Japanese fighter Takeshi Inoue in an IBF final eliminator bout in December. Williams is coming off the back of a 12-round majority decision victory over Nathaniel Gallimore in April and is looking to lock down a second opportunity at the title after suffering his first professional defeat to Jermall Charlo in December 2016.

https://thegruelingtruth.net/boxing/julian-williams-all-but-set-to-face-inoue-in-december-eyes-charlo-rematch-in-the-future/

[ShoulderRoll]

Gotta love Breadman! Someone needs to ask "WHEN AND WHO WILL J-ROCK BE FIGHTING NEXT?"

They did ask him that in this week's Mailbag.

But he either missed the question or just chose to ignore it.