Losing Interest?

[BoxingIsGreat]

I agree. I feel like I'm on a semi-break now actually!

I'll always love boxing, but it's getting really hard these days. None of the fighters I like fight often enough or competitive enough to keep me engaged. I started skipping a lot of the weekend cards too.

Oh well...

[Diego Rodriguez]

Ive noticed I have been checking my boxing news much less than usual. I'm still a big fan of the sport and looking forward to the fight schedule, but im tired of reading all the gossip articles about im ready to fight blah blah, and hes scared to fight blah blah, etc. I find myself just checking the boxing fight schedule and just tuning in. I can't lie Im also pretty bummed that we are not getting crawford vs spence for a long time if ever. I feel we should get that fight before the summer instead of making us wait maybe 2 years. Its such a great fight that should happen soon.
Rant Disengaged.

Case in point of the problem with boxing. Great sport that is horrifically managed. I don't care what the product is, nothing can overcome years and years of being poorly run without it eventually having an impact on the product.

[Lion81]

I believe this used to happen with Hollywood.

Each studio (promoter) would have their list of talent under contract. So if you were a big time actor and signed to MGM or Warner Bros you couldn't work with any other studio.

Not sure what led to the demise of that structure, but I'm hoping it comes to boxing.

The problem is GBP/PBC/Top Rank are like mini NFL's or NBA's where internally they can make all their talent fight each other, but the issue is working together.

The lack of partnerships, working together is the 2nd root of this problem. This first is promoters tying up talent to contracts.

The WBC for example will have no problem making or ordering the fights. The fighters have more or less no problem making fights. What's the problem then? The promoter.

Networks will make any fight available to them for purchase, so they're also a problem, but not one that can't be resolved.

[Lion81]

i been watching since chavez vs de la hoya. and now with everything going to these bull***** streaming apps, im starting to lose interest. but thats because i always watch the fights on shotime, hbo, espn, fox, etc. and now there are fewer n fewer fights on tv, i dont stream fights or get apps. i dont even have a smart phone or smart tv to do that. its a pain in the ass after all these years of just putting the channel on to watch, to now i gotta find a way to purchase an app and stream...and i remember tv networks saying boxing coming back to free tv, and all i see is dazn and espn+...... ***n wack.

Well since you don't have a smart phone you're in a very very exclusive group.

I would say you can't be unhappy about the move towards streaming.

It's like getting mad at technology for progressing. Like a cab driver getting mad at Uber. You need to adapt. Not as scary as you think. Cable TV is slowly dying, just the way the world and technology is headed. Watch what you want, when you want.

DAZN is a good thing where you can watch a lot of boxing for only 9.99 a month. ESPN+ isn't that bad either for just 5 bucks.

[El Gitano]

I check BS at least once a day for like 5 minutes. Just a habit a guess, it's bookmarked. But I rarely really read an article, I just read the first page of comments and that's it, go about my day. I used to watch boxing vids on YouTube. I don't do that anymore. My twitter is only boxing people, I usually now only visit it during bigger fights on Saturdays, same with IG.

I'm falling out of love with boxing and becoming a casual.

[New England]

there hasn't been this great of a divide in boxing since 2009-2015. i seriously hope these promoters are able to work together and make fights. if they can make money in stabel they will. just keep that in mind. use your voice and your wallets, show them how you feel and they will get the message.

hbo leaving had me feeling down and out for awhile, but FFS that thing had turned into a joke and we all knew this was coming. now that canelo is out of showtime's hands i exepct them to either try and turn wilder into a star, or bow their way out in time. TV is a thing of the past. 10 years from now nobody will be watching it.

[Real King Kong]

Ive noticed I have been checking my boxing news much less than usual. I'm still a big fan of the sport and looking forward to the fight schedule, but im tired of reading all the gossip articles about im ready to fight blah blah, and hes scared to fight blah blah, etc. I find myself just checking the boxing fight schedule and just tuning in. I can't lie Im also pretty bummed that we are not getting crawford vs spence for a long time if ever. I feel we should get that fight before the summer instead of making us wait maybe 2 years. Its such a great fight that should happen soon.
Rant Disengaged.

not only that, but spence vs Garcia will take the shine of a Garcia vs loma fight, unless Garcia somehow wins...in which case moving back down to face Loma is less likely and spence losing would take the shine off the Crawford fight. The situation sucks all around.

[r3ppa]

That makes sense. I enjoy some sh^t talking if its good, but 90%+ of the sh^t talking in boxing seems forced & contrived & I know some cats don't like any of it so fair play if thats the case with you. Generally the gossip sh^t seems to be SM driven so as long as you stay away from SM (although I guess that could include a site like this one often) you can avoid that.

And f#ck yea I'm completely on board with the business of boxing & the art of promotion f#cking up the desire of fans & the legacy of fighters.

The best should ALWAYS be fighting the best in boxing like what happens in every other sport. Boxing could be improved tomorrow if anyone with some power decided that boxing should make as much sense as other sports.

You need a centralized power structure that runs & looks out for boxing first & foremost. You don't need this bs which works like a ton of small businesses all looking out for their own good first & foremost.

Some QB in the NFL or some pitcher in the MLB can't control their own destiny quite like a boxer can, a promoter can for a boxer or a manager for a boxer. Thats cool that boxers have so much control of their destiny, but it always greatly damages the quality control of boxing which is one of the least competitive sports at the elite level cuz there is very little ability in keeping unproven fighters from getting big fights.

At the highest level of the sport no top ten guy should be fighting a guy you could say is #38 or #52 or even further down. The top guys should ONLY be fighting each other at the tip top level.

This is how things work in every other f#cking sport basically. Certainly every major sport that one could say is above boxing in the minds & hearts of sports fans.

Thats a huge mfing problem for the integrity of the sport that there is no quality control at any f#cking level of the sport.

/my rant lol

I agree with this entire post and most of the other posts on this topic. The part in bold pretty much sums it up for me. I've been watching boxing since the early 90's. I check a few sites daily. I come here and read a few stories and check the forum to see what's being said. I've been losing interest in boxing for quite awhile now. Not sure when it started, but a lot of the talk started being about how much a fighter is going to make and PPV buys and being undefeated. There was a time when none of that was being talked about. At least not as much. I just dropped HBO. Picked up DAZN, but just feel kinda meh about it and the rest of boxing. Boxing is the only sport I follow, and I feel that may be coming to an end. Especially as fragmented as things are.

[CrowsNestWest]

State of boxing

That makes sense. I enjoy some sh^t talking if its good, but 90%+ of the sh^t talking in boxing seems forced & contrived & I know some cats don't like any of it so fair play if thats the case with you. Generally the gossip sh^t seems to be SM driven so as long as you stay away from SM (although I guess that could include a site like this one often) you can avoid that.

And f#ck yea I'm completely on board with the business of boxing & the art of promotion f#cking up the desire of fans & the legacy of fighters.

The best should ALWAYS be fighting the best in boxing like what happens in every other sport. Boxing could be improved tomorrow if anyone with some power decided that boxing should make as much sense as other sports.

You need a centralized power structure that runs & looks out for boxing first & foremost. You don't need this bs which works like a ton of small businesses all looking out for their own good first & foremost.

Some QB in the NFL or some pitcher in the MLB can't control their own destiny quite like a boxer can, a promoter can for a boxer or a manager for a boxer. Thats cool that boxers have so much control of their destiny, but it always greatly damages the quality control of boxing which is one of the least competitive sports at the elite level cuz there is very little ability in keeping unproven fighters from getting big fights.

At the highest level of the sport no top ten guy should be fighting a guy you could say is #38 or #52 or even further down. The top guys should ONLY be fighting each other at the tip top level.

This is how things work in every other f#cking sport basically. Certainly every major sport that one could say is above boxing in the minds & hearts of sports fans.

Thats a huge mfing problem for the integrity of the sport that there is no quality control at any f#cking level of the sport.

/my rant lol

Boxing definitely needs an international commission ASAP, the WBC and WBA are super crooked

[N/A]

The best should ALWAYS be fighting the best in boxing like what happens in every other sport.

On any given Sunday, the #1 NFL team may be facing the #32 NFL team. So it's not that the best should always face the best, it's that the best should eventually face and in boxing, that's not always the case. A champion facing #8, #15, #20 would be fine if he was also facing #1 every 18 months. In UFC, the top two guys in a division are very likely to face at some point. In boxing, the top two may never face.

You need a centralized power structure that runs & looks out for boxing first & foremost.

PBC is the best chance of that happening. In football, hockey, baseball, basketball, etc, there are plenty of leagues around the world, but the US has one clear dominant league in each sport. That's what is needed in boxing. One clear dominant league in the US with its own champion, like UFC.

Can PBC pull it off? Too soon to say, but they've made a lot of progress. Could take a decade or longer before we really know how realistic the goal is.