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  • w1cked
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    #21
    Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody
    What boxing should be about:
    - Integrity
    - Honour
    - A test of the will
    - Fairness
    - The art of violence

    What boxing seems to actually be about:
    - Twitter
    - Money
    - Ticket sales
    - PPV numbers
    - Corruption

    I dunno, maybe I'm depressed or something, but coming out of the gym this morning, I just got thinking about the ideals of boxing, and how we fall so short of achieving those ideals.
    this basically applies to everything in the entire world

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    • club fighter
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      #22
      Originally posted by Shontae De'marc
      Robbie are you seriously gonna take that? wow! What a coward you are!
      U know he's not gonna respond to any thread unless it has Wilder in the title.

      ...... or AJ d1cksucking.

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      • chrisJS
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        #23
        Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody
        Man, thanks for this, great post. I will do well to remember the grass-roots of boxing, the small clubs that turn boys into men, and the communities that exist around them. There are some real diamonds around, people who give of their time to coach, just 'cos they love the sport so much. This side of things is very inspiring. Obviously there's corruption in the amateurs too, but what can you do. Heart-breaking to see a kid get a sh#t decision sometimes; but that's life.

        Boxing fans can be terrible sometimes, I remember one guy who started this conversation, watching the boxing together, 'Who was the most powerful puncher ever?', I said you gotta put Julian Jackson in there, and he replied, 'Who?' ... He'd been watching the boxing for years, smh. Anyway, yeah, I shall now cease with my b#tchy-whiney-mood haha
        It's astonishing really just how little a lot of these "fans" who label true fans "casuals" know. Even Larry who I don't particularly mind, he seems like a nice enough man with a passion for the sport didn't know that Willie Pep was a world champion. It's the guys like Mcdonalds who think Napoles and Griffith were 30's fighters and that 2007 to now is the best era ever and anything prior to him becoming interested in boxing (mainly Mayweather and Pacquaio) ****** because he doesn't know them or has never cared to try and even research them or watch any of the fights. Those are the lame fans that make boxing fans look bad. Fake fans that have never bothered to go further than boxrec or wikipedia and use youtube just to watch their idols fights for the 100th time rather than watch some truly great, historical fighters from other era's let alone actually try and hunt down rare content.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #24
          Originally posted by chrisJS
          It's astonishing really just how little a lot of these "fans" who label true fans "casuals" know. Even Larry who I don't particularly mind, he seems like a nice enough man with a passion for the sport didn't know that Willie Pep was a world champion. It's the guys like Mcdonalds who think Napoles and Griffith were 30's fighters and that 2007 to now is the best era ever and anything prior to him becoming interested in boxing (mainly Mayweather and Pacquaio) ****** because he doesn't know them or has never cared to try and even research them or watch any of the fights. Those are the lame fans that make boxing fans look bad. Fake fans that have never bothered to go further than boxrec or wikipedia and use youtube just to watch their idols fights for the 100th time rather than watch some truly great, historical fighters from other era's let alone actually try and hunt down rare content.
          You seriously question whether a fan is real based on if they watch historical fights on DVD? Some people just don't choose to watch old fights because they already know the outcome.

          You are making way too much of him not knowing the exact period when these guys fought and using that as a measure of whether he is a real fan or not.

          Loving the sport isn't just based on answering questions properly.

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          • chrisJS
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            #25
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            You seriously question whether a fan is real based on if they watch historical fights on DVD? Some people just don't choose to watch old fights because they already know the outcome.

            You are making way too much of him not knowing the exact period when these guys fought and using that as a measure of whether he is a real fan or not.

            Loving the sport isn't just based on answering questions properly.
            To a degree yes, but it's more of a knock of this type of fan speaking with some kind of authority that he is above other fans and knows more and feeling that they are qualified to discuss all-time great ratings when they don't even know the field. Instead just dismissing them as "bums" because they've never heard of them and trying to bring down their achievements (which they don't know) and/or just tell others they don't know these era's or fighters either just to feel better about themselves. Also, these "fans" openly admit to watching certain fights dozens of times so they aren't that put off by knowing the outcome. They simply only harbor an interest in a handful of boxers so they are boxer fans not boxing fans.

            So, yes. Fake fan. Hardcore fanboy of a particular fighter but hardly a fan of the sport. Most of them aren't even real fans of their fighter since if they were they'd go to watch these fights and fighters live which they have admitted to me that haven't
            Last edited by chrisJS; 11-01-2018, 11:46 AM.

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            • suffolkbull3
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              #26
              You left out something very important. A fighters health especially in the long run. Floyd laid out the blue print, fight twice a year, make a ton of money, and dont get hit.

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                #27
                Originally posted by chrisJS
                To a degree yes, but it's more of a knock of this type of fan speaking with some kind of authority that he is above other fans and knows more and feeling that they are qualified to discuss all-time great ratings when they don't even know the field. Instead just dismissing them as "bums" because they've never heard of them and trying to bring down their achievements (which they don't know) and/or just tell others they don't know these era's or fighters either just to feel better about themselves. Also, these "fans" openly admit to watching certain fights dozens of times so they aren't that put off by knowing the outcome. They simply only harbor an interest in a handful of boxers so they are boxer fans not boxing fans.

                So, yes. Fake fan. Hardcore fanboy of a particular fighter but hardly a fan of the sport. Most of them aren't even real fans of their fighter since if they were they'd go to watch these fights and fighters live which they have admitted to me that haven't
                It appears as if you are saying rewatching certain fights makes you a fan, even if you do it more than once, but rewatching other fights doesn't. That is extremely biased.

                You seem mad because he took shots at you so you are labeling him a fake fan out of anger.

                I just don't think there is only one way to be a true fan. While I agree fans should know something about the sport's history, not knowing Napoles or Griffith fought surely doesn't disqualify you from being a true fan.

                Now if you want to say he is ****** for not even checking Google-well then you might have a valid point.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by j.razor
                  That whole zero statement came out to discredit T.B.E. & now you dudes are using it to support that discredit. Not many fighters have or end with a zero on the loss column so ya'll can kill that whole zero talk to discredt him just like that whole "best of this generation" talk too cuz that is the same thing being used to discredit Floyd as T.B.E. cuz he IS T.B.E.


                  u
                  TBE always waited to fight fighters in decline fought Manny after being knock out fought Mosley and Oscar when they were had been the public deserved Manny vs Floyd in 09 not in 2015 Or fighting Mosley 5 years before their fight

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                  • Lion81
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody
                    What boxing should be about:
                    - Integrity
                    - Honour
                    - A test of the will
                    - Fairness
                    - The art of violence

                    What boxing seems to actually be about:
                    - Twitter
                    - Money
                    - Ticket sales
                    - PPV numbers
                    - Corruption

                    I dunno, maybe I'm depressed or something, but coming out of the gym this morning, I just got thinking about the ideals of boxing, and how we fall so short of achieving those ideals.

                    Thank you Floyd Mayweather.

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                    • Chuckguy
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody
                      What boxing should be about:
                      - Integrity
                      - Honour
                      - A test of the will
                      - Fairness
                      - The art of violence

                      What boxing seems to actually be about:
                      - Twitter
                      - Money
                      - Ticket sales
                      - PPV numbers
                      - Corruption

                      I dunno, maybe I'm depressed or something, but coming out of the gym this morning, I just got thinking about the ideals of boxing, and how we fall so short of achieving those ideals.
                      I agree boxers should be more like GGG and less like canelo

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