How much credit does Spence get for facing Mikey.. scale of 1-10

[LetOutTheCage]

People love to blame the fighter on the way up, but Spence is in the same position as Thurman & GGG & so many others have been before. You can only eat the food thats put on the table. And Thurman wants nothing to do with Spence. Danny & Shawn both didn't want anything to do with Spence's title. Danny coulda probably fought Spence now if he had called him out, but he's resting on his status. Bud isn't a makeable fight for anyone who knows how all this promoter/platform bs works 99.9% of the time.

So its easy to dog Spence here, but Spence is the juice not worth the squeeze guy here. And Mikey's in the same boat. He's not getting a Loma fight unless he bends to TR. He's not getting a Linares fight unless he bends to GBP. Thus Spence will be the best name on Mikey's resume too.

Neither guy pays enough to be worth it. Thus one will finally make their name more valuable vs the other in February it would seem. And then maybe some of these other fights can be made & the juice will be worth the squeeze for TR/GBP or Thurman/Porter.

Thurman is just coming off a long layoff so I dont blame him for not fighting Spence right away, Porter has said he is willing to fight Spence, he mentioned this in his last fight and obviously Crawford has been quite vocal towards Spence.

In fairness neither Canelo or GGG were given any credit for fighting Khan and Brook respectively and at least in GGG's case this is a last minute thing. Spence has had ample opportunity to have made a fight with another decent fighter at 147. And the argument often used against GGG was that if he couldn't find opponents at 160 then he should move up. Spence is huge at 147, he could easily have a fight or 2 at 154 while he waits for the guys at 147 to sort themselves out. I mean since fighting Brook, hes fought Peterson and Ocampo, hardly world beaters...

I full appreciate that there is boxing politics going on here but I have no doubt he could have fought better opposition over the last year, just seems like a year wasted after a big statement against Brook.

[Eff Pandas]

Thurman is just coming off a long layoff so I dont blame him for not fighting Spence right away, Porter has said he is willing to fight Spence, he mentioned this in his last fight and obviously Crawford has been quite vocal towards Spence.

I understand that, but we just didn't land in November 2018.

Thurman coulda gave Spence a title shot back when he was fighting. He showed no interest in fighting Spence. In fact he seems to want to make Spence his crowning achievement meanwhile a bunch of people like you don't think Spence has done much of anything yet & is avoiding mfers himself lol.

And Porter coulda gotten a shot at Spence's title vs fighting for a vacant title. Yea okay he's willing to fight Spence now or seemingly is willing to, but he coulda had Spence.

And idgaf about talking as much as many fans do. Spence is PBC, Bud is TR. These guys are not gonna fight til its a huge fight & thats not even likely to happen the way things are going til one of both of these guys are 34, 35+ probably.

Spence has had ample opportunity to have made a fight with another decent fighter at 147.

Who's that? Or define decent? Cuz all the big fights I just mentioned & gave my take on them. And decent to you might = get sh^t on by 75% of NSB for taking that fight.

And the argument often used against GGG was that if he couldn't find opponents at 160 then he should move up. Spence is huge at 147, he could easily have a fight or 2 at 154 while he waits for the guys at 147 to sort themselves out. I mean since fighting Brook, hes fought Peterson and Ocampo, hardly world beaters.

That was a dumb argument with GGG & it is for Spence. I'm pretty anti-moving up on a whim doe. I think you move up when you've accomplished all you need to or can at one weight &/or your body tells you its time you move up. Moving up in weight shouldn't be like a dare. I think moving up & down in weight is generally not good for fighters. Certainly I can't think of very many fighters who've done this successfully.

My man Chris Byrd was schooling a lot of HW's & got clobbered after returning down to his "normal weight". RJJ same say was never the same fighter after moving back down after his HW title winning performance. Brook broke his other eye after moving back down. And its hard to bust Khan's balls too much cuz he was struggling with & getting dropped by randoms pre-moving up, but he still struggled & got dropped by a random after moving back down. I'm sure their are some good stories of guys moving back down, but it still doesn't seem like the brightest move to me unless one is ready to move up for good & to me there was too much money to be made for GGG to move up & he was too close to the big fights & I feel like its the same situation for Spence.

I full appreciate that there is boxing politics going on here but I have no doubt he could have fought better opposition over the last year, just seems like a year wasted after a big statement against Brook.

Peterson is a ex-champ. He's a solid enough guy to fight.

Ocampo was a mando. If he doesn't fight him he'd have lost his belt. And this is the IBF they will legit take you're f#cking belt if you don't fight your mando so idk wtf you even think Spence was supposed to do there.

No one of note would give him a title shot forever when he didn't have a belt. He had to get mando'd into Brook's title shot. If he f#cks up his title he gots now no one is gonna be in a hurry to give him a title shot again. He'd have to fight for a vacant title or become the mando & then he's not getting another big fight til he finds another champ who has the desired payday he wants for fighting Spence.

Its all sorta one big catch 22 of bullsh^t more than a fighter is at fault for his situation. No one worth a damn will fight you til they have to or the money is worth it. And you aren't worth a damn to fight til you get the f#cking name or three on your resume lmfao.

Thats the sh^t I hate about the business of boxing.

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'bout tree fiddy

[MDPopescu]

Who says this fight is happening?

1. It's a terrible fight

... actually, Spence simply can't avoid this fight... (it's not about credit here...)
... The "credit" should go to Mikey... (but what other big money fight would he get instead?...)

[Oluminati]

No one of note would give him a title shot forever when he didn't have a belt. He had to get mando'd into Brook's title shot. If he f#cks up his title he gots now no one is gonna be in a hurry to give him a title shot again. He'd have to fight for a vacant title or become the mando & then he's not getting another big fight til he finds another champ who has the desired payday he wants for fighting Spence.

Its all sorta one big catch 22 of bullsh^t more than a fighter is at fault for his situation. No one worth a damn will fight you til they have to or the money is worth it. And you aren't worth a damn to fight til you get the f#cking name or three on your resume lmfao.

Thats the sh^t I hate about the business of boxing.

It's that simple. This is merely a fight to boost Spence's popularity and worth, thus making other fights easier to make.
And it'll be his best payday.

[Chrismart]

Not much, there's an obvious size difference between the two.

[Motorcity Cobra]

... actually, Spence simply can't avoid this fight... (it's not about credit here...)
... The "credit" should go to Mikey... (but what other big money fight would he get instead?...)

This is GGG-BROOK, Loma-Rigo, & Canelo-Khan all over again. We already know the outcome. Mikey won't have not one advantage coming into the fight. Not even speed

[Madison Boxing]

1 out of 10. before people start crying, i understand why spence would take the fight but mikey looked small against broner let alone spence

[Michael1437]

You have to give the guy some credit, I mean Mikey is the one calling Spence out, if Spence doesn't take the fight, so many people would say he's ducking Mikey, so he at least deserves some credit, not much, but some. I would say 5 out of 10 or so.

[Blackclouds]

Spence will get credit as he transitions to ppv. A small amount of pressure to look good while getting the KO, but Mikey fought at 140 and he wanted this work so Spence will do the job. Builds his profile in the mexican community and may even gain fans. All upside. An appetizer to the big fight. Yeah there'll be some boxing hipster weirdos who won't give him credit but these are the same type of folks that get exploited by boxing promoters squeezing every entertainment dollar that they have out of them. They don't deserve any respect.