Tyson Fury beats Deontay Wilder

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  • BackToTheJab
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    #21
    IF Tyson wins does it catapult him to the greatest British boxer of all time ? Going into the lion's den twice and winning the belt would be one hell of an acheivement.

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    • BillyBoxing
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      #22
      Originally posted by Mindgames
      How is Wilders chin though. He hasn't had to take too many punches so far. Not against someone with the range to land consistently. Sparked cold in the amatuers, badly dropped by Sconiers, looked at by the doctor mid fight in the last one. I think he's shaky.
      This I agree, Wilder is 6'7 (and TBH I wonder sometimes if he's not 6'8 when I see him next to Fury or other guys) for 215 pounds.

      He's fast, long and light, he's akward, like a spaghetti like Tyson said, he's hard to clip clean.

      He took a lot of punches in his pro career, but he always get hit by the end of the punches, he never really got clipped clean by a huge puncher.
      When Ortiz touch him well, he almost was ready to go.

      I don't think you need to punch hard to KO Wilder, I think you need to clip him clean with a counter when he goes full ****** swinging.

      I think Wilder has a fighting IQ and instinct and won't rush Fury, he will be cautious like he was with Ortiz.

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      • Zn1
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        #23
        Originally posted by Mindgames
        How is Wilders chin though. He hasn't had to take too many punches so far. Not against someone with the range to land consistently. Sparked cold in the amatuers, badly dropped by Sconiers, looked at by the doctor mid fight in the last one. I think he's shaky.
        I also think he's a bit shaky ... but he hasn't lost yet either

        Stiverne shook him up with a big shot and so did Molina I think

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        • just the facts
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          #24
          No way in hell Furys china chin lasts 12 with Wilder. Wilder by stoppage between 8 and 10.

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          • Zn1
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            #25
            Originally posted by BackToTheJab
            IF Tyson wins does it catapult him to the greatest British boxer of all time ? Going into the lion's den twice and winning the belt would be one hell of an acheivement.
            Come on.....

            yes it would be a hell of an achievement, but it wouldn't put him ahead of Lennox Lewis even if he decided to retire. Beating a Klitschko that didn't throw shots and a hard hitting but technically deficient Wilder won't propel anyone into the ATG discussion lol

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            • pillowfists98
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              #26
              Fury looks slower than he did before and his power sucks.

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              • FinitoxDinamita
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                #27
                Wilder’s speed and right hand always makes him awkward and dangerous but I believe Fury beats him. Fury needs to stay on his toes and avoid the big shots but i cant picture a good mobile boxer like him losing to an amateur like Wilder.

                Fury is going to school this guy

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                • BackToTheJab
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Zn1
                  Come on.....

                  yes it would be a hell of an achievement, but it wouldn't put him ahead of Lennox Lewis even if he decided to retire. Beating a Klitschko that didn't throw shots and a hard hitting but technically deficient Wilder won't propel anyone into the ATG discussion lol
                  I must confess I didn't see Lewis fight. I would have been 12 when he fought Vitali and I only started watching the sport properly a few years later. So I can only go by Lewis CV which having a glancing look at you could overshadow any of his wins as well.

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                  • Richard Hamilton
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                    #29
                    Wilder will win via controversial decision

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                    • Zn1
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BackToTheJab
                      I must confess I didn't see Lewis fight. I would have been 12 when he fought Vitali and I only started watching the sport properly a few years later. So I can only go by Lewis CV which having a glancing look at you could overshadow any of his wins as well.
                      2 wins over Holyfield (record says a draw and a win though lol) is better than Wilder's entire resume. I'd say more than half his last 22 fights are better than most of Wilder's resume except for Luis Ortiz perhaps.

                      V.Klit
                      Tua
                      Golota
                      Grant
                      McCall
                      Bruno
                      Tucker
                      Ruddock
                      Tyson
                      Mercer
                      Briggs
                      Rahman

                      Those in red are the fighters I think Wilder would struggle with, and any of the others would be in with a chance except Grant IMO

                      Wladimir Klitschko has a much stronger resume than Wilder, but the night he fought Fury was arguably his worst performance since he last lost. Neither him nor Wilder are enough though I still think Fury has got time to make a legacy of his own, it's just I don't think there are enough decent HW's for him to really surpass the best British boxers of all time, let alone best British HW's of all time.
                      Last edited by Zn1; 10-29-2018, 04:51 PM.

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